Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/07/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Yes the 43-86 Nikkor zoom is the shining light of bad Nikon glass according to legend which I'm sure is well deserved. Would love to see the specs on it with modern testing gear. Probably the lowest numbers ever recorded. Numbers so low they exist only in an environment of liquid nitrogen. The 43-86 Nikkor makes a plastic Holga optic seem like an Apo Asph from sunny Germany. BUT IT ZOOMED! - - from my iRabs. Mark Rabiner http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > From: "B. D. Colen" <bd at bdcolenphoto.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 18:05:37 +0000 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering in Barcelona > News - MARK & DANIEL > > Nope. Can't be. Even if Rockwell says it is. > The Worst Lens Ever Made (by a name brand manufacturer) In The History of > The > Modern Universe was, without a doubt, with NO room for argument: > > The 43-86 Nikkor zoom. To this day I remain convinced that Nikon contracted > with the Coca Cola company for returned glass bottle bottoms to use as > front > elements. This lens was such a dog that it howled when it was mounted. If > there was a single lens that gave the concept of zooms a bad name, this was > it. In a word, this lens really, really, really sucked. > > On the other hand, if they had branded it the Nikon Gaussian Blur Zoom, it > would have been decades ahead of it's time. ;-) > Typed with big fingers on tiny keys > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > Sender: lug-bounces+bd=bdcolenphoto.com at leica-users.org > Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2012 13:55:12 > To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering in Barcelona > News - MARK & DANIEL > > Rockwell has it all laid out here and he certainly agrees with you on > previous versions. > http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/24120vr.htm > He says its the worse lens ever made in the history of the modern universe. > That's the Nikon 24-120mm VR AF-S NIKKOR f/3.5-5.6 > I see no discussion on good versions. And I though he was my source on > that. > Thom and Moose agree with him with a tad less venomousness. > But that's the earlier versions: > > Rockwell says: > The new Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR is a great lens. It is worlds sharper than > its > predecessor, the fuzzy 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-S VR (2003-2010). Both these > 24-120 AF-S VR lenses are much better ergonomically than their predecessor, > the clunky 24-120mm AF-D (1996-2002). All three Nikon 24-120mm lenses are > loaded with distortion. > http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/24-120mm.htm > > So lets not put all our 24-120's in the same pot. > The VR is supposed to work great. > I would kill for this lenes.... Slay dragons. > What you couldn't shoot with this lens and a D800 is not worth mentioning. > But again it's twice the weight and bulk than I like to have one me every > day. It's ok for a specific shoot when I'm going somewhere for a specific > shot. > > > > > - - from my iRabs. > Mark Rabiner > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > >> From: John McMaster <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 21:04:43 +1200 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering in >> Barcelona >> News - MARK & DANIEL >> >> Really? The f3.5-5.6 VR was what I had and didn't change from 2003-2010. >> The >> current f4.0 also has variable quality from what I have read........ >> >> john >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> Every year that lens was re designed. Its real hard to know you're >> shooting >> with the same 24 to 120. Right now the version out is supposed to be quite >> good and I'd love to be shooting with it. Its just a tad big and heavy. >> >> - - from my iRabs. >> Mark Rabiner >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >>> >>> Amazing, I had that lens in D100/300 and nothing like that came out, >>> lens variation on improving on FF? >>> >>> john >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> Mark : mine is the cheapest lens you can get 24-120 first version 3.5 >>> shot fully open - it is the lens no-one wants to buy from Ebay - >>> available for less than $100 :-) >>> >>> Now, I would like to get a copy of the snap SHE took of me - or is it us? >>> unsure though as she had a 50mm on. >>> >>> I may have shot with one hand - don't remember, as I was lugging my >>> suitcase along - Daniel might remember this, it all went too quickly. >>> >>> Best >>> Philippe >>> >>> Le 8 juil. 12 ? 09:16, Mark Rabiner a ?crit : >>> >>>> Was this shot with the 24 1.4 Nikkor? >>>> Sure is sharp as a sun of a gun. And at a 30th. >>>> But looks stopped down one or two. >>>> >>>> - - from my iRabs. >>>> Mark Rabiner >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 21:58:46 -0500 >>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering >>>>> inBarcelona News - MARK & DANIEL >>>>> >>>>> On my screen, there appears to be a tab at approx the 11 o'clock >>>>> position in your photo. She is apparently holding on to the >>>>> focusing tab, so I would suspect that the filter is a polarizer. >>>>> >>>>> Jim Nichols >>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "philippe.amard" <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> >>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 2:12 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering >>>>> inBarcelona News - MARK & DANIEL >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your support Daniel, I hope you had a nice return trip >>>>>> back home. >>>>>> I was really happy to meet you and will remember last couple of >>>>>> beers on the square as a privilged moment in my life :-) To be >>>>>> renewed where and when we can. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark, have a look here, click large. >>>>>> I DK about the filter, sorry, we didn't even talk to her apart from >>>>>> asking permission... could be qualified as a missed opportunity >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/LUG+in+Barcelona/La+Boque >>>>>> r >>>>>> ia-M9-Sen >>>>>> iorita-Sushi-8874.jpg.html >>>>>> or >>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/d4bwvgj >>>>>> >>>>>> Amiti?s >>>>>> Philippe, editing today's celebrations snaps >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 7 juil. 12 ? 20:48, Daniel Ridings a ?crit : >>>>>> >>>>>>> It was an M9. Pity she covered up the model number. I too saw the >>>>>>> filter. Don't really know what it was. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Mark Rabiner >>>>>>> <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Are you sure it wasn't an M8 I thought I saw a dark grey flat >>>>>>>> filter on the lens? Maybe it was a polarizer? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - - from my iRabs. >>>>>>>> Mark Rabiner >>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> >>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 20:19:40 +0200 >>>>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering >>>>>>>>> in Barcelona News - STEVE >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Steve, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> no need to ask my friend, they're part of the global emotional >>>>>>>>> assets of the LUG community :-) Just if you could rename the >>>>>>>>> first one as: "The other room 31", details will surface in the >>>>>>>>> course of time... and the story told again and again over the >>>>>>>>> years ;-) I think you know the guys' >>>>>>>>> names :-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Other than that, the lady was obviously an M9 user, we actually >>>>>>>>> caught her in the act of shooting, but will remain unknown >>>>>>>>> forever, unless ... >>>>>>>>> I had asked her permission though, with Daniel as a witness. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Wish you'd been able to make it too, really. >>>>>>>>> TIA >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Amiti?s de Metz >>>>>>>>> Philippe >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Le 7 juil. 12 ? 16:51, Steve Barbour a ?crit : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Jean-Michel Mertz wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the pictures, Philippe, they are packed with life >>>>>>>>>>> and wit, and one can easily listen to the laughter! I think >>>>>>>>>>> I'll make it to Barcelona next time, this place is a must for >>>>>>>>>>> Luggers! >>>>>>>>>>> Jean- >>>>>>>>>>> Michel >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 00:12:59 +0200 >>>>>>>>>>>> From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr >>>>>>>>>>>> To: lug at leica-users.org; leicareflex at freelists.org >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering in >>>>>>>>>>>> Barcelona News >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm back from Barcelona tonight, where Ted, Lluis, Geoff & >>>>>>>>>>>> lovely family, Daniel and Nathan still are, and I have >>>>>>>>>>>> selected three takes from today that may give you an idea of >>>>>>>>>>>> the marvellous atmosphere there. This gathering was pure >>>>>>>>>>>> magic for me. >>>>>>>>>>>> Special >>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to Brian without whom this would never have happened. >>>>>>>>>>>> No stacks from me though be patient they will follow from >>>>>>>>>>>> "the crew", but you may nonetheless enjoy these in the meantime. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> My first encounter with Doctor Ted, magic! >>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/cleubbr >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ted as a Christmas Tree >>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7asd66o >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And Daniel and I had been very lucky earlier this morning >>>>>>>>>>>> when we encountered the best of both worlds on the market. >>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ct3xpeb >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Xtra special thanks to the crew too. >>>>>>>>>>>> Renewed hugs to "the Hoppies". >>>>>>>>>>>> Bien cordialement de Mutz >>>>>>>>>>>> Philippe, a little knackered after a short night and finding >>>>>>>>>>>> his car wouldn't start at the airport tonight, but German >>>>>>>>>>>> tows work wonders ... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would love to use these wonderful images Philippe, in our >>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Gallery, if I may...please... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information