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Subject: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering in Barcelona News - MARK & DANIEL
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2012 13:55:12 -0400

Rockwell has it all laid out here and he certainly agrees with you on
previous versions.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/24120vr.htm
He says its the worse lens ever made in the history of the modern universe.
That's the Nikon 24-120mm VR  AF-S NIKKOR f/3.5-5.6
I see no discussion on good versions. And I though he was my source on that.
Thom and Moose agree with him with a tad less venomousness.
But that's the earlier versions:

Rockwell says:
The new Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR is a great lens. It is worlds sharper than its
predecessor, the fuzzy 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-S VR (2003-2010). Both these
24-120 AF-S VR lenses are much better ergonomically than their predecessor,
the clunky 24-120mm AF-D (1996-2002). All three Nikon 24-120mm lenses are
loaded with distortion.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/24-120mm.htm

So lets not put all our 24-120's in the same pot.
The VR is supposed to work great.
I would kill for this lenes.... Slay dragons.
What you couldn't shoot with this lens and a D800 is not worth mentioning.
But again it's twice the weight and bulk than I like to have one me every
day. It's ok for a specific shoot when I'm going somewhere for a specific
shot.




- - from my iRabs.
Mark Rabiner
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: John McMaster <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 21:04:43 +1200
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering in Barcelona
> News - MARK & DANIEL
> 
> Really? The f3.5-5.6 VR was what I had and didn't change from 2003-2010. 
> The
> current f4.0 also has variable quality from what I have read........
> 
> john
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> Every year that lens was re designed. Its real hard to know you're shooting
> with the same 24 to 120. Right now the version out is supposed to be quite
> good and I'd love to be shooting with it. Its just a tad big and heavy.
> 
> - - from my iRabs.
> Mark Rabiner
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> 
>> 
>> Amazing, I had that lens in D100/300 and nothing like that came out,
>> lens variation on improving on FF?
>> 
>> john
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> 
>> Mark : mine is the cheapest lens you can get 24-120 first version 3.5
>> shot fully open - it is the lens no-one wants to buy from Ebay -
>> available for less than $100 :-)
>> 
>> Now, I would like to get a copy of the snap SHE took of me - or is it us?
>> unsure though as she had a 50mm on.
>> 
>> I may have shot with one hand - don't remember, as I was lugging my
>> suitcase along - Daniel might remember this, it all went too quickly.
>> 
>> Best
>> Philippe
>> 
>> Le 8 juil. 12 ? 09:16, Mark Rabiner a ?crit :
>> 
>>> Was this shot with the 24 1.4 Nikkor?
>>> Sure is sharp as a sun of a gun. And at a 30th.
>>> But looks stopped down one or two.
>>> 
>>> - - from my iRabs.
>>> Mark Rabiner
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 21:58:46 -0500
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering
>>>> inBarcelona News - MARK & DANIEL
>>>> 
>>>> On my screen, there appears to be a tab at approx the 11 o'clock
>>>> position in your photo.  She is apparently holding on to the
>>>> focusing tab, so I would suspect that the filter is a polarizer.
>>>> 
>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "philippe.amard" <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>
>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 2:12 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering
>>>> inBarcelona News - MARK & DANIEL
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for your support Daniel, I hope you had a nice return trip
>>>>> back home.
>>>>> I was really happy to meet you and will remember last couple of
>>>>> beers  on the square as a privilged moment in my life :-) To be
>>>>> renewed where and when we can.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark, have a look here, click large.
>>>>> I DK about the filter, sorry, we didn't even talk to her apart from
>>>>> asking permission... could be qualified as a missed opportunity
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/LUG+in+Barcelona/La+Boque
>>>>> r
>>>>> ia-M9-Sen
>>>>> iorita-Sushi-8874.jpg.html
>>>>> or
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/d4bwvgj
>>>>> 
>>>>> Amiti?s
>>>>> Philippe, editing today's celebrations snaps
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le 7 juil. 12 ? 20:48, Daniel Ridings a ?crit :
>>>>> 
>>>>>> It was an M9. Pity she covered up the model number. I too saw the
>>>>>> filter. Don't really know what it was.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Mark Rabiner
>>>>>> <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Are you sure it wasn't an M8 I thought I saw a dark grey flat
>>>>>>> filter on the lens? Maybe it was a polarizer?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - - from my iRabs.
>>>>>>> Mark Rabiner
>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>
>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 20:19:40 +0200
>>>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering
>>>>>>>> in Barcelona News - STEVE
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> no need to ask my friend, they're part of the global emotional
>>>>>>>> assets of the LUG community :-) Just if you could rename the
>>>>>>>> first one as: "The other room 31", details will surface in the
>>>>>>>> course of time... and the story told again and again over the
>>>>>>>> years ;-) I think you know the guys'
>>>>>>>> names :-)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Other than that, the lady was obviously an M9 user, we actually
>>>>>>>> caught her in the act of shooting, but will remain unknown
>>>>>>>> forever, unless ...
>>>>>>>> I had asked her permission though, with Daniel as a witness.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Wish you'd been able to make it too, really.
>>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Amiti?s de Metz
>>>>>>>> Philippe
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Le 7 juil. 12 ? 16:51, Steve Barbour a ?crit :
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Jean-Michel Mertz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the pictures, Philippe, they are packed with life
>>>>>>>>>> and wit, and one can easily listen to the laughter! I think
>>>>>>>>>> I'll make it to Barcelona next time, this place is a must for
>>>>>>>>>> Luggers!
>>>>>>>>>> Jean-
>>>>>>>>>> Michel
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 00:12:59 +0200
>>>>>>>>>>> From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr
>>>>>>>>>>> To: lug at leica-users.org; leicareflex at freelists.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering in
>>>>>>>>>>> Barcelona News
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi  all,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm back from Barcelona tonight, where Ted, Lluis, Geoff &
>>>>>>>>>>> lovely family, Daniel and Nathan still are, and I have
>>>>>>>>>>> selected three takes from today that may give you an idea of
>>>>>>>>>>> the marvellous atmosphere there. This gathering was pure
>>>>>>>>>>> magic for me.
>>>>>>>>>>> Special
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to Brian without whom this would never have happened.
>>>>>>>>>>> No stacks from me though be patient they will follow from
>>>>>>>>>>> "the crew", but you may nonetheless enjoy these in the meantime.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> My first encounter with Doctor Ted, magic!
>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/cleubbr
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Ted as a Christmas Tree
>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7asd66o
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> And Daniel and I had been very lucky earlier this morning
>>>>>>>>>>> when we encountered the best of both worlds on the market.
>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ct3xpeb
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Xtra special thanks to the crew too.
>>>>>>>>>>> Renewed hugs to "the Hoppies".
>>>>>>>>>>> Bien cordialement de Mutz
>>>>>>>>>>> Philippe, a little knackered after a short night and finding
>>>>>>>>>>> his car wouldn't start at the airport tonight, but German
>>>>>>>>>>> tows work wonders ...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I would love to use these wonderful images Philippe, in our
>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Gallery, if I may...please...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>> 
> 
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