Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/20

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Subject: [Leica] Need help with technical problem
From: csaganich at gmail.com (Chris Saganich)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:35:35 -0400
References: <8e0e0eb4132a2acf5bab904e15dc947d@mail.gmail.com> <CC06C281.176E1%chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com> <ba9d53690733ebbf0db8ac756c8b8d4a@mail.gmail.com> <20120620014549.2075fbb4@linux-mh41.site>

Agreed, radiation would not make such distinctions unless the ink had some
higher or lower density material in it compared to the paper.  Usually the
ink is denser and  the numbers would be darker...right?

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:45 AM, Phil Forrest
<photo.forrest at earthlink.net>wrote:

> I doubt X-ray would discern between the light and dark on the backing
> paper to be able to read the numbers on the film. Had to be light
> exposure through cheap paper and even cheaper backing.
>
> Phil Forrest
>
>
>
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:04:13 -0400
> Jim Shulman <jshulman at judgecrater.com> wrote:
>
> > Since the numbers were on the backing paper in the proper place--and
> > the white "start" arrows appeared just fine in the camera, my hunch
> > is that either it's Xray fogging or, as Marty pointed out, an
> > inherent problem with this film.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org] On
> > Behalf Of Chris Crawford
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:02 AM
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Need help with technical problem
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > I wonder, was the backing paper rolled on upside-down? Normal 120
> > backing paper is black on one side, and typically light colored with
> > black numbers or black with white numbers on the 'back' side. If it
> > was rolled with the numbered side facing the film, then light coming
> > through the emulsion at time of exposure could have reflected off the
> > numbers and 'exposed' them on the film.
> >
> > Other possibility is the film was fogged by X-rays in transit, since
> > that is done to some packages.
> >
> > --
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> >
> > On 6/19/12 11:50 PM, "Jim Shulman" <jshulman at judgecrater.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Yes, all the frames look like that, to one extent or another.  I'll
> > >try another roll before I raise an issue with the vendor.
> > >Shot it at the recommended ISO, using the timing for D76 at 1:1 from
> > >The Massive Development Chart (which has been spot-on for all my
> > >other film development).
> > >
> > >J
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org
> > >[mailto:lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org] On
> > >Behalf Of Richard Man
> > >Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 11:48 PM
> > >To: Leica Users Group
> > >Subject: Re: [Leica] Need help with technical problem
> > >
> > >(*jokes about cheap Chinese quality ensues*)
> > >
> > >All of the frames look like that? Try a different roll? Where did you
> > >get it? May be they will refund you...
> > >
> > >On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Jim Shulman
> > ><jshulman at judgecrater.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >> Purchased a small lot of (fresh) Shanghai 120 ISO 100 film
> > >> recently, and shot a roll earlier today.
> > >>
> > >> It did not come out well.  The image appears mottled, and the
> > >> backing paper numbers appear on the film!!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sample:
> > >>
> > >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/focusit/Apple+dumplings+sm.jpg.html
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> What happened?  Zapped by Xrays?  Martians?  Or was I just
> > >> Shanghaied?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Jim
> > >>
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> > >
> > >
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