Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/05/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The availability of jobs rise and wane due to many circumstances such as the one listed below. However, I think there had been a expectation that a college degree guarantees a good job, which has never been the case. The demands from jobs is higher, and more specialized. A general arts degree will essentially guarantee that you will require more specialized education to enter a more lucrative job market. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com>wrote: > Here in Canada the job market is fragmented. While quite a few people, > including university grads can't get decent paying jobs there are a lot of > well paying jobs that go unfilled. I believe the same is true in many > developed countries, and especially the US. > > As an architect I regularly see trades that can't find skilled workers. > The brick and tile layers that are really good are retiring, as most came > from Europe in the 50's and 60's. Here there was never a decent system for > training them, and the jobs were considered 'beneath' people who could go > to college. That kind of stigma and lack of training is coming back to bite > us. Lots of other trades are the same. > > If you do go to college, consider various engineering jobs. Many are > desperately lacking in personnel. Many people are still going to University > in an undefined Arts program, and racking up tuition debts. Good luck! It's > not the fault only of the kids of course; it's mostly the fault of general > society. When you're 20, it's better to be seen as being enrolled in a > literature program at a good college or university than being in a good > training program as an elevator installer. But take a look at them 10 years > down the road, in our present economic trend. > > Henning > > > On 2012-05-11, at 9:55 AM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote: > > > Engineering, computer science, and science graduates are highly sought > after here in the US. And just about anywhere in the world. As for > Journalism, I know a young lady getting her degree in England/Germany who > has several solid job offers waiting for her. > > > > Gene > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Phil Forrest" <photo.forrest at earthlink.net> > > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:05:16 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Monochrome > > > > I wish him the best of luck. > > MS in Aerospace Eng is certainly a specialized field and probably has a > > decent amount of opportunity after graduation. > > > > There are exceptions everywhere. Here in the US the job market isn't as > > rosy and the educated are increasingly being forced to work at very low > > wages. > > > > Phil Forrest > > > > > > > > On Fri, 11 May 2012 06:56:08 +0200 > > Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote: > > > >> I do not wish to sound smug or uncaring, but I just cannot share your > >> wholesale pessimism. I know that you have difficult circumstances and > >> for a variety of reasons that have little to do with the economy are > >> stuck in a depressed city. But I also know that my almost-23 year old > >> son will graduate with a Masters in aerospace engineering next year > >> (2013) and I know that thanks to his hard work at university, he will > >> have good grades and will very likely find a well-paying after > >> graduating. The only thing I do not know is exactly where that job > >> will be--given his specialty, it could be on either side of the > >> Atlantic. But it will certainly not be $7 an hour. > >> > >> And we are no 1-percenters. He attends a public university in England > >> and will graduate with a (modest) tuition debt. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Nathan > >> > >> Nathan Wajsman > >> Alicante, Spain > >> http://www.frozenlight.eu > >> http://www.greatpix.eu > >> http://www.nathanfoto.com > >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > >> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ > >> > >> > >> YNWA > >> > >> > >> > >> On May 11, 2012, at 4:01 AM, Chris Crawford wrote: > >> > >>> You have your head in the sand if you think that, Doug. The world > >>> has changed, and my generation will never be permitted the decent > >>> lives our parents had, no matter how hard we work. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Chris Crawford > >>> Fine Art Photography > >>> Fort Wayne, Indiana > >>> 260-437-8990 > >>> > >>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > >>> > >>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! > >>> > >>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 > >>> Become a fan on Facebook > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 5/10/12 9:11 PM, "Doug Herr" <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Phil Forrest wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Thu, 10 May 2012 15:28:26 -0400 > >>>>> Chris Crawford <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> This thing is so far outside the realm of even remote > >>>>>> possibility for me that I frankly don't give a damn. What is > >>>>>> Leica going to do when all the old people who have money because > >>>>>> they began working before the $7 an hour economy was foisted > >>>>>> upon their children have died, leaving the impoverished young > >>>>>> who simply cannot even consider such equipment, no matter how > >>>>>> good it is. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I've been asking this question for years and no one will give me > >>>>> an answer that works, instead insisting that Leica will continue > >>>>> to exist. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> The people who were asking this question forty years ago (I was > >>>> there) now have the means to consider a Leica system. And it may > >>>> very well be less than forty years but some day in the future many > >>>> of today's younger adults will also be able to realistically buy > >>>> into a Leica camera system. > >>>> > >>>> Doug Herr > >>>> Birdman of Sacramento > >>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > >>>> information > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > -- > > http://philipforrestphoto.wordpress.com/ > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/philforrest > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > Henning Wulff > henningw at archiphoto.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Ken Iisaka first name at last name dot org or com