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Subject: [Leica] McArthur Estates
From: chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com (Chris Crawford)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 06:45:20 -0400

Zionsville is a wealthy suburb of Indianapolis. The houses there are
extremely expensive compared to most in the Indianapolis area (most houses
in Indy are about the same prices as in Ft. Wayne for comparable size and
quality of neighborhood).

-- 
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On 3/29/12 6:04 AM, "Frank Dernie" <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com> wrote:

>One of my friends moved to Zionsville just outside Indianapolis about 10
>years ago. My son's house and garden would comfortably fit in his
>kitchen.... He sold a pretty cottage near Cambridge and his mansion in
>Zionsville was cheaper.
>FD
>
>On 29 Mar, 2012, at 09:03, Chris Crawford wrote:
>
>> You live in a city the size of Fort Wayne. We have 250,000 in the city
>>and
>> 300,000 if you count the suburbs. The $30,000 houses are the part of
>>town
>> where we have murders, shootings, drug gangs, etc...not a good area to
>> live in. A house in a middle class neighborhood is $90,000-$100,000.
>> $360,000 houses are in the very wealthy areas...that gets you a 6,000
>> square foot house with 5 bedrooms here!
>> 
>> Indiana is a good place to live if you have a decent job, because cost
>>of
>> living is very low, but unfortunately, there are NO jobs for educated
>> people and the good paying blue-collar jobs have become very rare
>>because
>> all our factories are in China now.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Chris Crawford
>> Fine Art Photography
>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>> 260-437-8990
>> 
>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>> 
>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
>> 
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
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>> 
>> 
>> On 3/29/12 3:15 AM, "Gerry Walden" <gwpics at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> With house prices that low it looks as though we should move to
>>>Indiana,
>>> but the trouble is that we would have to spend the money we make on the
>>> change of houses to pay for our medical needs. The thought of ANY house
>>> for $30,000 here is just unthinkable. I live in a city of a quarter of
>>>a
>>> million people, and I live in a pretty modest 3 bedroomed semi-detached
>>> house which is probably worth around the 360 to 400,000 dollar mark.
>>> 
>>> Gerry
>>> 
>>> Gerry Walden
>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>> www.gwpics.com
>>> 
>>> On 29 Mar 2012, at 07:22, Chris Crawford wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It depends on where you are in the USA. In Florida, a lot of retirees
>>>> live
>>>> in them, and in places where housing is outrageously expensive, a lot
>>>>of
>>>> middle class people live in them. I saw that a lot in New Mexico,
>>>> because
>>>> houses in the Santa Fe area started at $300,000 for a dump in the
>>>>barrio
>>>> (the bad section of town) and averaged $600,000 for houses that middle
>>>> class people in Indiana buy less than $100,000.
>>>> 
>>>> Here in Indiana, where housing is really cheap (you can buy a VERY
>>>>nice
>>>> house for $90,000 here in Fort Wayne, and housing is cheaper in
>>>> Indiana's
>>>> small towns than it is here in the city!), only really trashy people
>>>> live
>>>> in trailers. People here refer to trailer parks as "The white man's
>>>> ghetto". The people who live in them are not necessarily poor, many
>>>>are
>>>> not, but they are culturally low-class, if that makes sense. A lot of
>>>> rednecks who have good factory jobs or jobs as skilled tradesmen
>>>> (plumbers, electricians, etc) will live in a trailer and spend their
>>>> middle class wages on beer, cigarettes, and a bigass expensive pickup
>>>> truck. Most people in trailer parks are poor though, and generally
>>>> always
>>>> white. Poor blacks here live in houses in the inner city, which can
>>>> often
>>>> be bought for less than $30,000.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>> Fine Art Photography
>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>> 260-437-8990
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>>> 
>>>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/29/12 1:45 AM, "Gerry Walden" <gwpics at me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Interesting shot Chris, and it is always interesting to look at your
>>>>> locale.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I get the impression that 'trailer parks' are considered the lowest
>>>>>of
>>>>> the low in the US when it comes to housing, whereas here in the UK
>>>>>they
>>>>> are quite often retirement settlements. In fact my wife and I have
>>>>> considered moving into a double trailer (i.e. about 20ft x 20ft) and
>>>>> selling our house as it would release a lot of capital to enable us
>>>>>to
>>>>> enjoy our retirement more. We still haven't totally ruled it out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gerry
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gerry Walden
>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>>>> www.gwpics.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 29 Mar 2012, at 05:31, Chris Crawford wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mayberry of Trailer Parks! Haha Thanks Ken! Actually the whole
>>>>>> Waynedale
>>>>>> area has kind of a Mayberry quality, but with more rednecks.
>>>>>>Waynedale
>>>>>> used to be a small town, before it was absorbed by the growing city
>>>>>>of
>>>>>> Fort Wayne in the late 1950s. Even though Waynedale has been part of
>>>>>> thecity now for more than 50 years (which is longer than the town
>>>>>>was
>>>>>> independent!), it still looks and feels like a small rural town.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>>>> Fine Art Photography
>>>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>>>> 260-437-8990
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>>>>>> Become a fan on Facebook
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/28/12 7:33 PM, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 3/28/2012 5:53 PM, Chris Crawford wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>http://chriscrawfordphoto.com/chris-details.php?prodId=987&category
>>>>>>>>=1
>>>>>>>> 3
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I shot this one yesterday evening. I find it amusing how many
>>>>>>>> trailer
>>>>>>>> parks
>>>>>>>> have the word "Estates" in their names!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That is excellent.  It looks sort of like the Mayberry of trailer
>>>>>>> parks.  You are getting your money's worth from the 5D MkII.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> Gerry Walden
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>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>>>> www.gwpics.com
>>>>> 
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