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Subject: [Leica] Not yet upgrading to LR4
From: mark at whitedogs.co.uk (Mark Pope)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:00:10 +0000
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Hi Douglas,

SSDs are working out at about ?1 per GB, so they are becoming quite 
tempting from a price as well as performance perspective.

Sounds like your machine could be quite a beast :-)

You'll be kept busy migrating data, apps and 'stuff' over...  I know I 
was :-)
Have fun!




Mark Pope,
Swindon, Wilts
UK

Homepage               http://www.monomagic.co.uk
Blog                   http://www.monomagic.co.uk/blog
Picture a week (2012)  http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2012
Picture a week (2010)  http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2010
Picture a week (2009)  http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2009
                (2008) 
http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2008

On 15/03/2012 01:36, Douglas Sharp wrote:
> Hi ;ark,
>
> My local computer repairer told me he uses an SSD drive for his OS and
> it increases the speed quite amazingly - so I'll be looking into that
> option, too.
>
> I'm also thinking of having my existing drives installed (both of which
> are reasonably new), and an extra 10,000 rpm drive for my images and
> colossal translation/terminology memories - currently, search times can
> be pretty abysmal. Otherwise, just lots of USB 3.0 and 2.0 ports. And
> perhaps - just for fun - a DVB-T tuner and aerial socket so I can watch
> TV on it too.
>
> Cheers
> Douglas
>
> Just hope the configuration works with my Nikon Coolscan V and Canon
> flatbeds.
>
> On 14.03.2012 18:28, Mark Pope wrote:
>> Hi Douglas,
>>
>> that's exactly what I did and it wasn't that expensive. I'm lucky in
>> that I have a local store that really care about the systems they build.
>> I ended up with a core i7 cpu, 16GB RAM, a 1GB video card and 2TB HDD
>> (I subsequently added the 2TB drive from my old XP machine, which
>> holds my images).
>> I'm running 64-bit Windows 7 professional.
>> The speed of the system is limited by the main HDD, but it is quite
>> fast. Having read Richard's post, I am tempted to use a faster HDD,
>> but it's not a priority at this time.
>>
>> The only downside is that I can't run my Minolta film scanner.
>> Apparently, the USB interface on the scanner has problems with timing
>> with faster machines :-(
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Pope,
>> Swindon, Wilts
>> UK
>>
>> Homepage http://www.monomagic.co.uk
>> Blog http://www.monomagic.co.uk/blog
>> Picture a week (2012)
>> http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2012
>> Picture a week (2010)
>> http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2010
>> Picture a week (2009)
>> http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2009
>> (2008) http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2008
>>
>> On 14/03/2012 00:14, Douglas Sharp wrote:
>>> Thanks again, Richard
>>>
>>> looks like a custom-built job for me.
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Douglas
>>>
>>> On 13.03.2012 22:57, Richard Man wrote:
>>>> I would certainly go for a configurable box from someone rather than a
>>>> name
>>>> brand. For us photographers, we really want the fastest CPU, but not
>>>> necessarily bazillion cores (e.g. 4 cores at 3 GHz of the same
>>>> processor
>>>> will be better than 8 cores at 2.66 Ghz - for the SAME processor), the
>>>> mostest memory (8Gb minimum, 16GB is much better and 32GB will get
>>>> diminished return) and just a plain decent card and the fastest SATA
>>>> drive.
>>>>
>>>> For $3000-$4000, in US, I could get i7 @3GHz, may be 8 cores (again 4
>>>> would
>>>> be fine), at least 16 GB, probably more like 32GB, 2 TB 10,000 RPM
>>>> drive
>>>> and a decent card easily. So you are good to go.
>>>>
>>>> Just a few other drives for continuous backup, but they are cheap.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Douglas Sharp<douglas.sharp at gmx.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Richard, I'll look into it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or what do you think of these people?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.happyware.de/en/
>>>>>
>>>>> They're more or less just up the road from me, close to Hamburg - I
>>>>> translated some marketing stuff for them recently - and they appear
>>>>> offer
>>>>> some pretty good custom deals.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I'll ask them for a quote. I'm thinking of a limit of 2-2.5
>>>>> thousand
>>>>> euros - so that should get me quite a bit of power and speed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> Douglas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13.03.2012 21:00, Richard Man wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug, get the i7 machine and load it with at least 16 GB. 32 GB if
>>>>>> you can
>>>>>> afford it. If you can't afford SSD, then get the 10,000 RPM drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The video card won't make much difference for Photoshop. Just get a
>>>>>> decent
>>>>>> one with at least 512MB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Run Win7 x64 of course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your quality of life will improve a lot :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Douglas
>>>>>> Sharp<douglas.sharp at gmx.de>**
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>> thanks for the advice - I'm currently looking at Lenovo
>>>>>>> Workstations with
>>>>>>> lots of number-crunching abilities that can speed up my translation
>>>>>>> databases and not slow down to a crawl when using Photoshop CS (I'm
>>>>>>> currently working with 250 MB files of scanned mining maps and it
>>>>>>> is S l
>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>> w! - only 2.4GBs of RAM).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone heard anything particularly good or bad about Lenovo?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Douglas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 13.03.2012 17:52, Mark Pope wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Doug,
>>>>>>>> I would be inclined to install Lightroom3 on the Windows 7 machine
>>>>>>>> first,
>>>>>>>> then migrate your images/catalogue over by exporting it from the XP
>>>>>>>> machine, then import on the Windows 7 machine. Only when you're
>>>>>>>> satisfied
>>>>>>>> that everything is working satisfactorily on the Windows 7 machine
>>>>>>>> would I
>>>>>>>> upgrade.
>>>>>>>> You may also have to copy any settings you have made in the print
>>>>>>>> module,
>>>>>>>> for example for any bespoke print sizes, as these aren't part of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> catalogue.
>>>>>>>> Printer profiles will also need to be installed on the new machine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have fun!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark Pope,
>>>>>>>> Swindon, Wilts
>>>>>>>> UK
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Homepage http://www.monomagic.co.uk
>>>>>>>> Blog
>>>>>>>> http://www.monomagic.co.uk/****blog<http://www.monomagic.co.uk/**blog>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://www.monomagic.co.**uk/blog<http://www.monomagic.co.uk/blog>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Picture a week (2010) http://www.monomagic.co.uk/**
>>>>>>>> index.php?gallery=paw/2010<htt**p://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.**
>>>>>>>> php?gallery=paw/2010<http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2010>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Picture a week (2009) http://www.monomagic.co.uk/**
>>>>>>>> index.php?gallery=paw/2009<htt**p://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.**
>>>>>>>> php?gallery=paw/2009<http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2009>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (2008) http://www.monomagic.co.uk/**
>>>>>>>> index.php?gallery=paw/2008<htt**p://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.**
>>>>>>>> php?gallery=paw/2008<http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2008>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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