Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/03/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]No custom printers can work must faster than a photographer can work on his own neg. no custom printer works all night from the same neg with a bottle of scotch. I'd work the whole night on three negs and two bottles of scotch. Or rum or bourbon. It makes for a lot of dark prints you see when you wake up next afternoon. -- Mark R. http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ > From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 01:03:29 -0800 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Magnum & the Dying Art of Darkroom Printing > > I have read that a master printer like Voja Mitrovic, "..world renowned > master printer who has been a long time printer for Henri Cartier-Bresson, > Josef Koudelka, Rene Burri, Peter Turnley, and many others" can spot how > best to print a negative visually and in a short time, so they don't spend > hours trying to get a master print - well, at least good enough for us > mortals anyway. I also read that Gene Smith would often go into a darkroom > with a pack of printing paper and a bottle of something and 2 days later, > came out with a single print... > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Tarek Charara <tcharara at mac.com> wrote: > >> So? I like achieving similar results for a particular print and so I do >> note my dodging and burning on my final test prints. I would go crazy if I >> didn't?Specially when doing limited edition prints and don't do the whole >> batch at the same time. And IF I change papers, I usually start with the >> results I noted and go from there. If I want to achieve a different >> interpretation, I also start from that particular annotated print and try >> new stuff? It's not perfect, but sure is better than re-inventing the >> wheel >> every time. And ymmv? >> >> And as to time spent in the darkroom? 35 years here. But I must be a bit >> younger? ;) >> >> All the best from Paris! >> >> Tarek >> >> ------------------------------------------------- >> Tarek Charara >> <http://www.tarekcharara.com> >> >> NO ARCHIVE >> >> >> >> >> Le 8 mars 2012 ? 09:43, Mark Rabiner a ?crit : >> >>> Its just that I've over 4 decades printed and half my friends did the >> same. >>> As in printed the same neg on different papers different times. Different >>> sizes for different shows or clients. RC and or Fiber. C print or >>> Cibachrome. And had our assistants do It and or a custom printer do it. >>> Its scintillating horsepucky. >>> >>> -- >>> Mark R. >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ >>> >>> >>>> From: Tarek Charara <tcharara at mac.com> >>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 09:12:33 +0100 >>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Magnum & the Dying Art of Darkroom Printing >>>> >>>> You'd have to make those note at some final stage so that you don't >> start the >>>> whole trial and error process all over again. years later when you need >> to >>>> print again. >>>> >>>> All the best from Paris! >>>> >>>> Tarek >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------- >>>> Tarek Charara >>>> <http://www.tarekcharara.com> >>>> >>>> NO ARCHIVE >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 8 mars 2012 ? 06:06, Mark Rabiner a ?crit : >>>> >>>>> I cant figure out if this is an example of a kind of obsesive >> compulsive >>>>> psychosis or an attempt at humor. There is also a famous one of a head >> from >>>>> Avedon. An image marked up way past any reason or comprehension. >>>>> I'll tell you what I think it is its drugs in the 80's. >>>>> But it might be Public relations. Your clients are supposed to think >> that >>>>> even though you yourself are not making the prints the relation >> between you >>>>> and your assistant or printer is so involved that its worth all the >>>>> ridiculous money they are paying you for the job and or print. >>>>> >>>>> In reality when you go through sheets and sheets of paper in the >> darkroom >>>>> its a rather organic process of trial and error. And you cant be >> reminded of >>>>> it from a mark up or controlled by someone giving you a marked up >> thing like >>>>> that. The printer has to sweat it out themselves. Adams called it a >>>>> performance of a score. But your head is not buried in the score. You >> have >>>>> to look up from time to time and cue your orchestra. >>>>> -- >>>>> Mark R. >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > -- > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information