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Subject: [Leica] Magnum & the Dying Art of Darkroom Printing
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 05:20:59 -0500

If you're like me or anybody I've seen print (quite a few) those burning and
dodging notes consisted of two or three circles with numbers in them.

-- 
Mark R.
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/


> From: Tarek Charara <tcharara at mac.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 09:55:40 +0100
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Magnum & the Dying Art of Darkroom Printing
> 
> So? I like achieving similar results for a particular print and so I do 
> note
> my dodging and burning on my final test prints. I would go crazy if I
> didn't?Specially when doing limited edition prints and don't do the whole
> batch at the same time. And IF I change papers, I usually start with the
> results I noted and go from there. If I want to achieve a different
> interpretation, I also start from that particular annotated print and try 
> new
> stuff? It's not perfect, but sure is better than re-inventing the wheel 
> every
> time. And ymmv? 
> 
> And as to time spent in the darkroom? 35 years here. But I must be a bit
> younger? ;)
> 
> All the best from Paris!
> 
> Tarek
> 
> -------------------------------------------------
> Tarek Charara
> <http://www.tarekcharara.com>
> 
> NO ARCHIVE
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le 8 mars 2012 ? 09:43, Mark Rabiner a ?crit :
> 
>> Its just that I've over 4 decades printed and half my friends did the 
>> same.
>> As in printed the same neg on different papers different times. Different
>> sizes for different shows or clients. RC and or Fiber. C print or
>> Cibachrome.  And had our assistants do It and or a custom printer do it.
>> Its scintillating horsepucky.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Mark R.
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Tarek Charara <tcharara at mac.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 09:12:33 +0100
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Magnum & the Dying Art of Darkroom Printing
>>> 
>>> You'd have to make those note at some final stage so that you don't start
>>> the
>>> whole trial and error process all over again. years later when you need 
>>> to
>>> print again.
>>> 
>>> All the best from Paris!
>>> 
>>> Tarek
>>> 
>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>> Tarek Charara
>>> <http://www.tarekcharara.com>
>>> 
>>> NO ARCHIVE
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Le 8 mars 2012 ? 06:06, Mark Rabiner a ?crit :
>>> 
>>>> I cant figure out if this is an example of a kind of obsesive compulsive
>>>> psychosis or an attempt at humor. There is also a famous one of a head 
>>>> from
>>>> Avedon. An image marked up way past any reason or comprehension.
>>>> I'll tell you what I think it is its drugs in the 80's.
>>>> But it might be Public relations. Your clients are supposed to think 
>>>> that
>>>> even though you  yourself are not making the prints the relation between
>>>> you
>>>> and your assistant or printer is so involved that its worth all the
>>>> ridiculous money they are paying you for the job and or print.
>>>> 
>>>> In reality when you go through sheets and sheets of paper in the 
>>>> darkroom
>>>> its a rather organic process of trial and error. And you cant be 
>>>> reminded
>>>> of
>>>> it from a mark up or controlled by someone giving you a marked up thing
>>>> like
>>>> that. The printer has to sweat it out themselves. Adams called it a
>>>> performance of a score. But your head is not buried in the score. You 
>>>> have
>>>> to look up from time to time and cue your orchestra.
>>>> -- 
>>>> Mark R.
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
>>> 
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