Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/02/24
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I had always seen photographers shooting with the pre ASPH Summicron or Summilux 35's. They are near pancakes. The camera becomes pocketable. When it was time for me to get a 35 the ASPH had just come out. I got one of the first ones. That was February 2000. It was way heavier than the 50mm Summicron I was used to using as my only lens. And when I checked the specs it was way heavier and a bit bulkier than the pre ASPH. BUT wide open you've got no apologies to make. Those shots would hold up at quite a large magnification. My 45 Summicron C is also quite a bit lighter and a bit smaller than my 35 ASPH. Buy the end of the day I can certainly tell the difference. Though many would not care. -- Mark R. http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/ > From: Gene duprey <grduprey at mchsi.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:45:37 -0600 (CST) > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] The smallest M lens > > I keep either the 35'lux pre-asph, or the newer 28 Elmarit Asph on my M8. > Both are pretty small. > > Gene > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Man" <richard at richardmanphoto.com> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:24:50 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [Leica] The smallest M lens > > The point is also that as small as the 35 'lux pre-ASPH is (that was the > first Leica lens I ever used - on a rental M6), it still not much smaller > than the 35 'lux ASPH, all things considered. So it's absolutely pointless > for me to have the 35 pre-ASPH. I could just take the ASPH instead. > > The Perar made the M almost pocketable. > > A total different class of animals. And I agree that the modern optics > would equal, if not exceed the old optics. > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Phil Forrest > <photo.forrest at earthlink.net>wrote: > >> The 50 Elmar, any 35 Summaron, and especially the 35 pre-asph 'Lux are >> certainly not known for their corner performance at all. Even the 90 >> Elmar is weak in the corners until it's stopped down. I'm willing to >> wager the 35 perar holds its own against the pre-asph Lux or either >> Summaron simply by virtue of modern design but also because those old >> lenses are not sharp across the plane until f/5.6 or even f/8. >> Granted, I love my Leica lenses because of their aberrations but to >> claim that Leica can do no wrong in comparison to this newcomer that is >> amazingly tiny then to bring up the very lenses that have the >> aberrations you complain about in the new one is just plain funny. >> >> Phil Forrest >> >> >> >> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:36:17 -0500 >> Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: >> >>> There have always been plenty of very small footprint non descript >>> Leica lenes which add little to the weight and bulk of an M body yet >>> give full quality out to the edges as in the kind of quality one gets >>> into Leica for. And I'm not even talking about the collapable Elmar a >>> lens in chrome version my X has gotten a LOT of use out of. She also >>> uses or used the colorable 90 elmar. But the 50 works on an M9. >>> My 50 Summicron is light and small. My 45 Summicron C is lighter and >>> smaller. My 35 Summicron ASPH would be even lighter and smaller if it >>> were not the ASPH. And the summilux you can hardly tell the >>> difference. Half the Leica glass out there tends to be tiny. >>> The default filter size is 39. Those are my main filters for my Leica >>> glass. I have an old tiny 35 Summaron I could use on an M with an >>> adaptor. I got it for my LTM system >>> I'm not sure what the cache is for this Pera 35/3.5 lens. >>> What it opens up for the photographer that he didn't have opened up >>> for him or her before. >>> Mr. Miyazaki may believe that a well designed triplet exceeds a >>> Tessar but this one gives laughable results at the edges wide open. >>> It looks like shot through a car window at an angle. For all the big >>> bucks and rhetoric you get a Japanese hand built Holga. >>> And at the same price a new chrome 50 Silver Elmar went for a few >>> years ago when we got one. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> philforrest.wordpress.com >> gallery.leica-users.org/v/philforrest >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > > -- > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information