Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/01/22

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Subject: [Leica] Help with Nocti
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:27:30 -0500

That John sold his Noctilux becuae it went to 1 meter instead of .7 of a
meter is a what I've been hearing on the lug now for a decade with a bit of
wonder. One could carry a Summicron in ones pocket for such critical close
situations could one not?
 11.8 inches is the difference.  But the real issue would be the difference
in size of minimum magnification. The smallest area you can shoot would be
and why this could not be settled with a tiny bit of cropping when printing
or Photoshopping the  digital image.
The 50mm collapsible and rigid Summicrons  in the 50's and 60's both focused
to one meter. Not the key issue I don't think.
Many people when they are in a 2 to 3 foot shooting space mind set reach for
their SLR DSLR with maybe a macro lens on it. Put one of those in the bottom
of your camera bag and you're covered when you need to get close and don't
want to crop.

-- 
Mark R.
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/


> From: Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 09:19:30 -0800
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Help with Nocti
> 
> That's a really good point about the close focus John. Thanks for pointing
> it out; I need to think about that one.
> Best,
> Bob
> 
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:03 AM, John Collier <jbcollier at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
>> The only caveat is that the close focus limit is 1.0 meter. I bought one
>> and used it for a year as my normal lens. I absolutely loved it and used 
>> it
>> wide open most of the time -- that said it is also a stunning performer
>> stopped down. It is the most flare proof piece of glass I have ever shot
>> with, period. No need for a hood. The focus movement is longer and
>> "stiffer" than most other M lenses but it is still silky smooth and easy 
>> to
>> use. One small hint, make small focus adjustments by moving yourself
>> slightly back and forth to suit, much easie to "follow focus" that way 
>> what
>> with the very narrow depth of field.
>> 
>> Ultimately, no matter how much I loved its look, I always found myself
>> composing the shot but then having to back up due to the 1.0 meter close
>> focus limit. Sold it, had a very entertaining time with three 50/1.4 Asphs
>> in a row and then settled happily for a last generation non-asph 50/1.4.
>> 
>> No regrets,
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> On 2012-01-21, at 11:49 PM, Rei Shinozuka wrote:
>> 
>>> All f1.0 Nocts have the same optical design which goes back to the 1976.
>>  The Gen I - Gen IV reflect  differences in the barrel design.  Gen I 
>> takes
>> an E58 filter, the rest E60.  Gen IV uses a sliding hood, the earlier
>> models a detachable hood.
>>> 
>>> I think it's well worth a try for any M user.  I'm going on 11 years
>> with a Gen III Noct 1.0 as my most-used lens.
>>> 
>>> -rei
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 01/22/2012 01:29 AM, Robert Adler wrote:
>>>> I just received the following from an east coast dealer I'm working
>> with .
>>>> So far a new M and 35'cron built int 2004. Here is what I'm being told
>>>> about the Nocti:
>>>> 
>>>> "I have a nice used 4th Gen 50mm f/1 Noctilux with slide out shade that
>>>> just came in a couple days ago. It is also not 6-bit coded and I'd rate
>> it
>>>> overall as a 8 or 9 out of 10. It has one area of wear on the underside
>> of
>>>> aperture ring, but otherwise pristine. Perfect glass and very smooth
>>>> focusing, especially for a Noctilux f/1 (they tend to be stiff). I
>> believe
>>>> we are asking $6500 for it."
>>>> 
>>>> He can send the Nocti to Leica NJ for coding and calibration.
>>>> Are there questions, other than what is generation 4 (what is that?) and
>>>> the comment "very smooth focusing, especial for a Noctilux f/1 (they
>> tend
>>>> to be stiff)".
>>>> 
>>>> I'm a bit out of my area of expertise and hope some can provide
>> guidance.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks to all,
>>>> Bob (who managed to go out shooting today for the 1st time in 5
>> weeks...).
>>>> It actually turned out to be a day of frights, but all are safe. More
>> later
>>>> after I have a chance to develop the images.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bob Adler
> Palo Alto, CA
> http://www.rgaphoto.com
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Replies: Reply from jbcollier at shaw.ca (John Collier) ([Leica] Help with Nocti)
In reply to: Message from rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler) ([Leica] Help with Nocti)