Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/01/16

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Subject: [Leica] Summicron DR Eyes
From: lluisripollquerol at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 00:34:05 +0100
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Ideas, ideas.... es lo dif?cil, piensa que la tecnolog?a siempre se  
puede comprar o buscar qui?n la sepa


Lluis Ripoll Querol
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El 17/01/2012, a las 0:25, Chris Saganich escribi?:

> I noticed that according to Steve Gandy's lens guide the eyes of my DR
> shouldn't be compatible with the lens body.  The newer DR lenses  
> have a
> dual scale in feet and meters, focus to 20in, and have ridges in the  
> trough
> of the focus ring knurling.  The older DR bodies have a single  
> scale, focus
> to 19in, have reproduction ratios, and have ridges on the peaks of the
> focus ring knurling.  The older bodies are supposed to have a larger  
> ball
> bearing compared to the newer DR bodies making the newer eyes  
> incompatible
> to the older DR bodies, but the older eyes will work on the newer DR
> bodies.  Older eyes have the "condenser" logo and newer eyes have  
> the Leitz
> Wetzlar logo.  According to convention ( which I haven't confirmed)  
> the
> newer eyes shouldn't be compatable on the older DR bodies due to the  
> ball
> bearing size difference.  My DR has the new logo and the older body  
> so I
> was curious if I could find any other examples of this anomaly.  I  
> searched
> ebay and the internet for examples where the age of the lens and  
> logo of
> eyes were identifiable.  Here is what I found:
>
> 1956- 125,594 lenses made
> 1402xxx Old Body Old Logo
> 1403731 Old Body Old Logo
> 1440268 Old Body New Logo
>
> 1957- 89,389 lenses made
> 1487412 Old Body New Logo
> 1513415 Old Body New Logo
> 15301xx Old Body New Logo
> 1534320 Old Body New Logo
> 1545576 Old Body New Logo
>
> 1958 -97,281 lenses made
> 1587819 Old Body Old Logo -From Cameraquest website
> 1592570 Old Body New Logo - My Lens
> 1623068 New Body New Logo
>
>
> The only exception is from Cameraquest where Steve probably used an  
> old
> example of the eyes for the old body. Who but Steve would have lots of
> these hanging around?
>
> All this suggests that eyes with the newer logo were manufactured  
> with the
> larger ball bearing receptor for the older DR bodies.
>
> The ball bearing size on my older DR body is 3 mm diameter and 1.8mm
> height. The receptor dimensions on my eyes with newer logo are 3.5 mm
> diameter  and 1 mm deep.
>
> It would be interesting if we could fill in these blanks regarding  
> ball
> bearing measurements on the older and newer DR bodies and eyes:
>
> 1)  Older DR body: 3mm dia x 1.8mm height
> 2)  Eyes with older Logo: ???
> 3)  Eyes with new Logo on older body: 3.5mm dia x 1mm depth
> 4)  Newer DR body: ???
> 5)  Eyes with new Logo on New DR body:  ???
>
> The supposition is that the dimensions of1,  2 and 3 should be similar
> while 4 and 5 should be different and smaller.
>
> -- 
> Chris Saganich
> www.imagebrooklyn.com
>
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Replies: Reply from lluisripollquerol at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll) ([Leica] Summicron DR Eyes)
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