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Subject: [Leica] Question on relative VF brightness.... Canon/Nikon/R8/SL to Visoflex
From: taichung00 at yahoo.com (taichung00)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 05:12:28 -0700 (PDT)

Jayanand,
? I wonder whether you are pitying,patronising or condemning those making a 
transition soooo much later than you? You tell us your experience, then 
project that onto "....99+% of the photographers who switch...."? Seems 
perhaps a rather egocentric assumption. That sounds much more unkind than I 
want it to sound. It is just that, while we are of course interested in one 
another's anecdotal recollections, we may not all be as ready to be taken 
for granted in a sweeping stastical generalisation.? To thus dismiss 
Philippe, or Frank, whose question began this thread, or any other LUGer as 
"....part of a very small minority...."? seems to trivialise their input.? 
Perhaps those whose experience is not so great, or so long ago fulfilled, 
are being invited to sit at the children's table?

? Bruce Humphrey

--- On Thu, 8/25/11, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Question on relative VF brightness.... 
Canon/Nikon/R8/SL to Visoflex
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Date: Thursday, August 25, 2011, 3:07 AM

Philippe,
When I shifted from film to digital, I was already using AF bodies and
lenses - therefore my legacy lenses were already AF, and hence there was no
problem at all in the move - I had gone through the adjustments years
before. I suppose this would be the case with 99+% of the photographers who
switch from a film system to a digital system which take interchangeable
lenses. You are one of a very small minority who actually went from MF to AF
in that switch, and hence all the resultant adjustment problems.
Cheers
Jayanand


On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 1:07 PM, philippe.amard <philippe.amard at 
sfr.fr>wrote:

>
> Le 25 ao?t 11 ? 09:08, Jayanand Govindaraj a ?crit :
>
>
>
>> Well, the Nikon F, F2 & F3 viewfinders hold their own with anything I have
>> used, and you could change between 6 viewfinders and 20 odd focusing
>> screens
>> as well - why does everyone always compare viewfinders on MF with those on
>> AF bodies?
>>
>
> I guess when one buys a DSLR one expects to keep using legacy lenses - most
> people just stop doing so after a while, and buy modern AF lenses - I have
>
>
>? Their viewfinders are designed for different purposes, not for
>> the 0.00001% of eligible photographers who would like to use mainly MF
>> lenses on an AF body. If you would like to use MF lenses only, buy a body
>> designed for that (R8/9 + DMR) and be happy. There is a primary reason
>> that
>> nobody caters to that market any more - there is no market.
>>
>> Philippe, while I agree with you about the Leica R/Nikon 50mm lenses, by
>> the
>> time you stop down to f8 you would be hard put to tell the difference.
>>
>>
> Agreed and the cron degrades after that point
>
>
>? BTW, my cheapo plastic Nikon D7000 has a 100% viewfinder...
>>
>>
> I hope the D800 will cover the full frame, it is raging to have to
> guestimate what you're actually putting in the box as you have to recrop
> when back home ... time consuming and boring
>
> ph
>
>
>
>
>? Cheers
>> Jayanand
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:23 PM, philippe.amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr
>> >wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Le 25 ao?t 11 ? 08:13, Frank Filippone a ?crit :
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>? I'm not looking for precisely made calculations or measurements, but if
>>>> you
>>>> were to compare the relative brightness of the VF in the Nikon or Canon
>>>> AF
>>>> cameras or the R8 or SL to the Visoflex, which would be brighter and by
>>>> how
>>>> much?????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>? The SL comes first, hand down
>>> followed by R8 (sighs)
>>> far behind is my D700 (not 100% coverage either)
>>>
>>> these are cameras I owned and used
>>>
>>> Hope it answers your question
>>> Ph
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> The lenses in question are the 400 and 560 Telyts..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Impressions are fine..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>>
>>>> Red735i at earthlink.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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