Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/08/20

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Subject: [Leica] Leica finances
From: benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 21:26:20 +0930
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>so what the fuck do I know?"

This: http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/focusit/?g2_page=2 suggests you
know what you're doing photographically, and how to achieve it, for
one thing, I would say.  About Leica as a company, well, really, I
think the statement above really applies to us all.

Marty



On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Jim Shulman <jshulman at judgecrater.com> 
wrote:
> When I hear these stories about Leica's finances, speculations about the
> real R&D costs, and the current backlog of orders, I'm reminded of an old
> theatrical anecdote. ?About 30 or so years ago, the late, great Ethel
> Merman attended a performance of "Torch Song Trilogy". ?Harvey Fierstein,
> the author, heard that The Merm was in the audience, and sought her out
> after the show. ?When asked if she enjoyed it, Merman replied, "I thought
> it was a piece of shit. ?But the audience laughed and cried and applauded
> like crazy, so what the fuck do I know?"
>
> Leica cameras and lenses are ridiculously expensive, possibly cost a
> fraction of the list price to manufacture, perhaps could be made cheaper
> in Asia with different materials, and there's a huge backlog of orders, so
> indeed what the fuck do I know?
>
> Jim Shulman
> Wynnewood, PA
> Still shooting Merman/"Gypsy"-era Leica equipment.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> Of
> Mark Kronquist
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:15 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica finances
>
> How much R&D does Leica actually foot? I assume (I am a principal in a
> manufacturing concern) the sensor and elecrtonics vendors help a great
> deal....yes there are prototypes and such but...
> On Aug 19, 2011, at 5:13 PM, John McMaster wrote:
>
>> And how many to sell to overcome R&D costs?
>>
>> john
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> Way back in 1988 or 1989 there was a GUTSY MACWORLD OR MACUSER ARTICLE
> ON
>> WHAT IT REALLY COST TO MAKE A MACINTOSH SE which as I recall was the
> better
>> part of $2k at the time...the article said about $250...
>>
>> The gnomes in Solms are making a tidy profit at current prices....
>>
>>
>>
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