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Subject: [Leica] Medium Format Digital
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 23:08:35 -0400

You mean Nikon medium format camera files?


Mark William Rabiner
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> From: Doug Herr <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 19:26:59 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Medium Format Digital
> 
> Mark Rabiner wrote:
> 
>> You didn't do any sharpening after hand?
>> How about during hand? Check all your prefs? Menus in your menus?
>> Its got a very hard look to me. Really verging on too hard.
> 
> Knowing the general area reasonably well, I'd say it's not sharpened.  
> Mark,
> perhaps you're accustomed to N**** files?
> 
> ;)
> 
> Doug Herr
> Birdman of Sacramento
> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> 
> 
>>> From: Bob Adler <rgacpa at yahoo.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 18:25:12 -0700
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Medium Format Digital
>>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> The pixels in this image have not been sharpened to protect the innocent
>>> (unless of course LR applied some sharpening when it output to the 
>>> web...).
>>> 
>>> Bob Adler
>>> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>>> 
>>> On Jul 7, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I think an advantage to medium format digital is it can take a lot of
>>>> sharpening and not get all funny.
>>>> This to me is also an advantage to using lower ISO's...
>>>> than maybe you'd think you'd even need.
>>>> 
>>>> A high iso small format capture makes of an image which needs to be
>>>> sharpened very very carefully; as you can go to far and the next day you
>>>> look at it and you realized you have to redo it. Unless there is a  
>>>> layer
>>>> in
>>>> Photoshop for sharpening. Which I'd think there easily could be.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Tina Manley <images at comporium.net>
>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 12:52:26 -0400
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Medium Format Digital
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now that is one sharp photo!!  You had a clear view of Owens Valley.  
>>>>> When
>>>>> we went up two days later there was a lot of haze.  Here is my panorama
>>>>> from
>>>>> the same spot:
>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/image/136216932
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a problem smoothing out skies in panoramas.  Are you using
>>>>> Photoshop
>>>>> to stitch your's?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tina
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> My P45+ stitched in portrait orientation (18mm shift on each side) 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> 35mm lens gives a rough equivalent of a medium format 17.5mm lens. 
>>>>>> That
>>>>>> translates into what, about a 12mm rectilinear 35mm equivalent?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And you want what?
>>>>>> See:
>>>>>> http://www.rgaphoto.com/GT/content/Valley_View_Pano_W_large.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This image is from 3 main segments produced by using 3 back shifts 
>>>>>> with a
>>>>>> portrait oriented P45+ and 35mm lens, for each segment. The 3 back 
>>>>>> shifts
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> each segment were stitched together from the images of the 35mm lens
>>>>>> shifted
>>>>>> in portrait orientation. This roughly equates to the view of each of 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> 3
>>>>>> segments equaling the field of view of a 17.5mm medium format lens/ 
>>>>>> 12mm
>>>>>> lens on a 35mm format system.  3of these were stitched(swinging the
>>>>>> camera
>>>>>> on a panoramic head) to give the image. It was then cropped. The file 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> over 2.2GB.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Give me a place to stand and I will hang this image!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In all seriousness there are some correctly stated and some overstated
>>>>>> items in this expose. But all in all, medium format for landscapes is 
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> really nice place right now...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anyone want to buy some Hassy V and Canon equip? :-)
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bob Adler
>>>>>> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My pipe dream is that someone, well, Fuji specifically :-) would 
>>>>>>> make a
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 18x49mm sensor, and build a digital RF system for it. The sensor 
>>>>>>> size is
>>>>>>> just about the same size as the "full frame" 35mm, so the technology 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> cost is known (remember that full frame Canon and Sony are as "low" 
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> $2500).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The result would of course be a cropped digital XPan. The lens 
>>>>>>> should be
>>>>>>> much easier to design - heck, lets make them all F2.8 while we are at
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sell the whole system with 3 lens (30, 45 and 90 equivalent) for 
>>>>>>> $10,000
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> $12,000, and I bet they will sell at least as many of that as Pentax
>>>>>> 645D.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/>
>>>>>>> // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.com/blog/>
>>>>>>> // richard's personal photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com>
>>>>>>> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all
>>>>>> previous
>>>>>>> replies in your msgs. ]
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Tina Manley, ASMP
>>>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>>>> 
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