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Subject: [Leica] Medium Format Digital
From: wildlightphoto at earthlink.net (Doug Herr)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 19:26:59 -0700 (GMT-07:00)

Mark Rabiner wrote:

>You didn't do any sharpening after hand?
>How about during hand? Check all your prefs? Menus in your menus?
>Its got a very hard look to me. Really verging on too hard.

Knowing the general area reasonably well, I'd say it's not sharpened.  Mark, 
perhaps you're accustomed to N**** files?

;)

Doug Herr
Birdman of Sacramento
http://www.wildlightphoto.com


>> From: Bob Adler <rgacpa at yahoo.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 18:25:12 -0700
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Medium Format Digital
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> The pixels in this image have not been sharpened to protect the innocent
>> (unless of course LR applied some sharpening when it output to the 
>> web...).
>> 
>> Bob Adler
>> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>> 
>> On Jul 7, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think an advantage to medium format digital is it can take a lot of
>>> sharpening and not get all funny.
>>> This to me is also an advantage to using lower ISO's...
>>> than maybe you'd think you'd even need.
>>> 
>>> A high iso small format capture makes of an image which needs to be
>>> sharpened very very carefully; as you can go to far and the next day you
>>> look at it and you realized you have to redo it. Unless there is a  
>>> layer in
>>> Photoshop for sharpening. Which I'd think there easily could be.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: Tina Manley <images at comporium.net>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 12:52:26 -0400
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Medium Format Digital
>>>> 
>>>> Now that is one sharp photo!!  You had a clear view of Owens Valley.  
>>>> When
>>>> we went up two days later there was a lot of haze.  Here is my panorama 
>>>> from
>>>> the same spot:
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/image/136216932
>>>> 
>>>> I have a problem smoothing out skies in panoramas.  Are you using 
>>>> Photoshop
>>>> to stitch your's?
>>>> 
>>>> Tina
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> My P45+ stitched in portrait orientation (18mm shift on each side) 
>>>>> with the
>>>>> 35mm lens gives a rough equivalent of a medium format 17.5mm lens. That
>>>>> translates into what, about a 12mm rectilinear 35mm equivalent?
>>>>> 
>>>>> And you want what?
>>>>> See:
>>>>> http://www.rgaphoto.com/GT/content/Valley_View_Pano_W_large.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> This image is from 3 main segments produced by using 3 back shifts 
>>>>> with a
>>>>> portrait oriented P45+ and 35mm lens, for each segment. The 3 back 
>>>>> shifts
>>>>> of
>>>>> each segment were stitched together from the images of the 35mm lens
>>>>> shifted
>>>>> in portrait orientation. This roughly equates to the view of each of 
>>>>> the 3
>>>>> segments equaling the field of view of a 17.5mm medium format lens/ 
>>>>> 12mm
>>>>> lens on a 35mm format system.  3of these were stitched(swinging the 
>>>>> camera
>>>>> on a panoramic head) to give the image. It was then cropped. The file 
>>>>> is
>>>>> over 2.2GB.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Give me a place to stand and I will hang this image!
>>>>> 
>>>>> In all seriousness there are some correctly stated and some overstated
>>>>> items in this expose. But all in all, medium format for landscapes is 
>>>>> at a
>>>>> really nice place right now...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone want to buy some Hassy V and Canon equip? :-)
>>>>> Bob
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob Adler
>>>>> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> My pipe dream is that someone, well, Fuji specifically :-) would make 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 18x49mm sensor, and build a digital RF system for it. The sensor size 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> just about the same size as the "full frame" 35mm, so the technology 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> cost is known (remember that full frame Canon and Sony are as "low" as
>>>>>> $2500).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The result would of course be a cropped digital XPan. The lens should 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> much easier to design - heck, lets make them all F2.8 while we are at 
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sell the whole system with 3 lens (30, 45 and 90 equivalent) for 
>>>>>> $10,000
>>>>> to
>>>>>> $12,000, and I bet they will sell at least as many of that as Pentax
>>>>> 645D.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/>
>>>>>> // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.com/blog/>
>>>>>> // richard's personal photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com>
>>>>>> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all
>>>>> previous
>>>>>> replies in your msgs. ]
>>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Tina Manley, ASMP
>>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>>> 
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