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Subject: [Leica] B&W on a digital camera
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 16:30:50 -0400

There's really different levels of work.
People who pick up their snapshots from the drugstore really do sometimes
have expensive cameras imported from Germany with rare lenses on the front
of them.  "image making" means going "click"; then off to the drugstore
later the Kiosk in the parking lot of the strip mall.

IPHOTO is like the recently no longer made Adobe's "Photoshop Album."
Its a contact sheet maker. A light box of the digital sort.*
Elements on the other hand is  is the consumer version of Adobe Photoshop.
That's a digital darkroom. Not a Light Box. An enlarger and a sink filled
with trays. If you turn the LightBox on the print turns black in the
developing tray.

That means you look at that jpeg and you think: "is that too dark?" and if
you do think its too dark  you open it up on Elements or Photoshop and you
lighten it. Its a thing  your average eleven year old does every day without
even thinking about it before sending of a pic to their friends or uploading
it to a gallery. 
They actually look at a pic the take and think about it and tweak it before
showing to a friend! With their very cheap point and shoot digital cameras.
But for the rich old guys on the lug this is way too much to ask.
KISS stands for keep it simple stupid.
It does not mean go watch television . Skip it sucker. Forgetaboutit
It means doing it in a simple way without needlessly complicating it.

Me it feels a little funny seeing guys with gear getting into the tens of
thousands of dollars who don't want to lift their little pinky a quarter
inch into the air and shoot a raw or at least tweak a jpeg once they see it
pop out of their wildly expensive rare camera gear; can't bare to look at
their images critically. Then so something about it

To me that's what the digital equivalent of a Kodak Brownie is for.
Digital does seem to ask a bit more from you. It puts photography a bit more
in  your hands. And less in the hands of the guy feeding the C41 machine in
the kiosk or Walgreens.




* "often compared to Google's Picasa, CyberLink Media Show, Microsoft
Expression Media and Windows Live Photo Gallery. "


Mark William Rabiner



> From: Dennis Kushner <dennis.leicam6 at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:08:01 -0400
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] B&W on a digital camera
> 
> I download images right from card or CD files into iPhoto.
> For the time being, the KISS way works for me. YMMV.
> 
> I just found my Elements 3 CD & just installed it on my new iMac.
> Is this still supported for upgrades as I purchased it in 2005 ?
> If not. it's paid for & still useable. I haven't used this program for
> last 3 years so will play with it on next album that I post.
> 
> Cheers,
> DK
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:38 PM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at 
> mac.com>wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 7:53 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>> 
>>> Its quite rewarding and quite fun I do it
>>> hundreds of times a week but on the LUG all hear is its too much trouble.
>>> Its not instant.
>>> You have to think.
>>> You have to do stuff.
>> 
>> As far as I can tell
>> the majority of those
>> who consistently post images to the LUG
>> push their sliders around
>> every bit as much as you and me.
>> 
>> ;~)
>> 
>> Regards,
>> George Lottermoser
>> george at imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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