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Subject: [Leica] Going digital with M lenses (outside of M8/M9)?
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:47:46 +0200
References: <CA2D7DE0.10E19%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Several of the PAWs I have posted this year have involved Leica (or 
Cosina/Voigtlander M) glass on a GF-1 body.

Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu
http://www.greatpix.eu
http://www.nathanfoto.com
PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog

YNWA







On Jun 27, 2011, at 6:22 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:

> The issue is not ease of focusing or  stop down shooting but putting an
> exquisite and pricey and manual Leica lens designed to cover a 24x36mm area
> on a camera which has a 18x13.5mm  format with a diagonal of 22.5mm and is
> otherwise a pile of compact electronics.
> That does not excite me nor appeal to my common sense.
> Should such a camera have at least a 1.5 crop , 1.33 crop or 1x crop and
> have no or minor issues as to seamless use I'd be paying more attention to
> that.
> 
> However this is partly becuae I'm not aware of anybody using such a set up
> getting some real results that I can remember seeing.
> People talk about their cameras. They don't talk about their pictures.
> If someone has a gallery perhaps on the LUG please direct me to it and I'm
> sure seeing a body of work done with such an arrangement would get me to
> modify my thinking and change my tune. Especially if its an impressive
> showing.
> I'm talking about a folder with 4/3s pix in it taken with Leica glass on a
> GAF-1 body. Or similar 4/3's option which I seem to be dimly aware of.
> Perhaps some semi serious application.
> 
> 
> Mark William Rabiner
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:16:08 +0530
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Going digital with M lenses (outside of M8/M9)?
>> 
>> Mark,
>> As usual, you do not understand context. Well, let me explain. It makes it
>> irrelevant to go to a lot of trouble to use Leica M lenses on the camera
>> bodies under discussion, when using Lumix and/or Olympus lenses is far 
>> more
>> efficient and simple, unless you want to shoot wide open or thereabouts,
>> which is Leica's strength over the others.
>> 
>> Have you tried focusing a 90mm Elamrit M lens on a GF-1 body? Not
>> surprisingly, I thought you had not. Let me tell you it is no picnic, and 
>> I
>> would probably just go out and buy a Panasonic 100-300 or something if I
>> wanted that range.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> The idea that stopping down makes it irrelevant to use Leica lenes is
>>> patently absurd. What if you wanted to get something in focus? You need 
>>> to
>>> stop down for most shots. The extremely selective focus thing can only 
>>> get
>>> you so far.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:43:23 +0530
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Going digital with M lenses (outside of M8/M9)?
>>>> 
>>>> They work well, as Nathan says, on the GF-1, but they are very difficult
>>> to
>>>> focus properly wide open on the EVF. If you have to stop down, why use
>>> Leica
>>>> lenses in the first place? I think the quality of the viewfinder is
>>>> critical, so check that out. Alternatively use ultra wides where 
>>>> focusing
>>> is
>>>> a non issue.
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Jayanand
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Jan,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I find that using M lenses on my GF-1 works quite well. I use the
>>> adapter
>>>>> from Cameraquest. In fact, I just bought the 12mm non-rangefinder
>>> coupled CV
>>>>> lens, and it works brilliantly on the GF-1. And of course the fact that
>>> it
>>>>> is not rangefinder-coupled is of no consequence in this case.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Nathan
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>>> 
>>>>> YNWA
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 26, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Jan Decher wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>> What's currently  the best way to take my M and ZM lenses to  digital
>>>>>> (outside of M8/M9)?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I considering buying a Micro 4/3rds body (Olympus, Panasonic) perhaps
>>>>> with
>>>>>> one indigenous "pancake-type" lens  and the M adapter.  Any issues 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> metering, manual focussing etc. to be aware of?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Which adapter is the best (Novoflex, CameraQuest, EBAY China-made...)?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>> 
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