Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/06/10

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Subject: [Leica] HCB negative
From: richard at imagecraft.com (Richard Man)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:17:40 -0700
References: <BANLkTim5KratZ=Qwft1h6Ud=L5VpMj_Kbw@mail.gmail.com> <p06230908ca18328f7c0d@10.0.1.4> <BANLkTi=_Ac2Z8Vt+5cQBVrqiUZGwZBQrVg@mail.gmail.com>

Acros-100 is a great film, but it is about as far as the old film as you can
get. Very nice and clean.

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 4:15 PM, James Laird <digiratidoc at gmail.com> 
wrote:

> I might try some Efke 50 or 100. I've heard some good reports on
> Neopan Acros-100 too. Anyone using this film?
>
> Jim Laird
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Henning Wulff <henningw at archiphoto.com>
> wrote:
> > I was talking to Tom Abrahamsson this morning, and he recollected as did
> I
> > that HCB said once when asked about the sprocket hole strip, and why it
> was
> > missing: 'I ate them', implying at least that he had done it for whatever
> > reason, and that this is likely the original.
> >
> > On the other hand we're all just guessing and inferring from hearsay, and
> > probably the full 'truth' will never come out anymore. And it really
> doesn't
> > matter.
> >
> > As far as 'old style' film is concerned, some of the stuff that Efke
> markets
> > comes closer than today's Tri-X and HP5+ or other films from the majors.
> The
> > Efke offerings come from a couple of different manufacturers and are
> based
> > on old Adox and Orwo emulsions. MACO also produces some (and Efke markets
> > some of those, as well).
> >
> >
> >
> > At 1:53 PM -0400 6/10/11, Lawrence Zeitlin wrote:
> >>
> >> Henning is right! I stand corrected. I based my original conclusion on
> >> measuring the image on an iPad. But enlarged on a 20" screen, and making
> >> allowance for the foreshortening, I estimate that the negative strip is
> >> 27.5
> >> mm wide. A row of perforations could have been snipped off and still
> leave
> >> the full image frame. Why that was done is hard to say. Damage? Stripped
> >> sprocket holes?
> >>
> >> The fact that the film was snipped does not mean that the negative shown
> >> was
> >> not a copy. E. Leitz (remember them?) made several devices for
> duplicating
> >> film strips including the Elida Film Printer, the Eldur Contact Printer,
> >> and
> >> the Kopat Combination Printer. One of the major scientific uses of the
> >> Leica
> >> camera was copying rare artifacts and manuscripts in situ. Leitz itself
> >> suggested that distribution prints of rarities be produced from copy
> >> negatives to avoid excessive handling and potential damage to
> >> irreplaceable
> >> original images. The HCB jump negative probably fits in that category.
> >> Interestingly Leitz never suggested blowing up the negative to 4x5 size
> to
> >> make copy prints. The idea probably would have gone against the 35mm
> bias
> >> of
> >> the company. A full description of Leica copying technique is spelled
> out
> >> in
> >> Morgan and Lester's "Leica Manual," especially the editions published
> >> before
> >> 1950 when specialized microfilm copying equipment became widely
> available.
> >>
> >> Larry Z
> >>
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> >
> > --
> >
> >      Henning J. Wulff
> >  Wulff Photography & Design
> > mailto:henningw at archiphoto.com
> >  http://www.archiphoto.com
> >
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