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Subject: [Leica] What film did HCB use?
From: benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:30:48 +0930
References: <0FD7B97A-AA2E-4E97-8ED4-FB5E2C1D18E1@paulhardycarter.com> <CA17549F.10059%mark@rabinergroup.com>

I've seen them print from copy negs at Picto, for a range of photographers.

Marty

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:
> A copy would not be made on 35mm film again it would be made on 4x5 sheet
> film but even then to say that Picto or any custom printer printed HCB
> prints for collectors for any conceivable reason is a slam to Picto which 
> is
> absurd and they'd surely not appreciate nor would the collectors buying
> those prints.
> A print from EVEN an 4x5 copy neg is a huge compromise compared to a print
> from the original negative. ?Not matter how carefully its done put those
> prints side by side and no one wants the copy of the copy. Which is why its
> not done.
> In any other graphics process the lower you are in the run the move value
> the print. NOT in photography where printing from an original negative does
> not damage the neg at all. conceivably millions of prints can me made from
> an original negative. ?Perhaps a dupe would be made in case of fire or for
> record keeping purposes.
> It might seem logical that somewhere from someone who had to made extensive
> dodging and burning manipulations to make a print from a ?certain neg that
> copy neg from the print might be in the workflow I'd like an example which
> could be corroborated by a URL of such a case I doubt its at all common if
> it exists at all.
> I'd highly doubt I'd would be in the case of an HCB neg as he was not going
> to be making the print in the first place.
> I have to say this because this absurdity has been repeated on the list 
> more
> than once and more than twice. It shows a basic lack of common sense of the
> basics of photography technique. A basic rule being keep the generations to
> a minimum.
> A copy of a copy is not what anyone ever wants at all. There is little to 
> no
> excuse for it. If I found out a print id bought for real money was made for
> a copy neg I'd demand my money back on the spot. And I think even the
> stupidest collectors would do the same.
>
> Mark
>
> By the way look at the cut side you can make out a corner of a sprocket 
> hole
> and also the number 39.
> What it looks like to me is its the last shot on the roll which often gets
> damaged.
>
> --------------------
> Mark William Rabiner
>
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