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Subject: [Leica] Which colour neg film?
From: chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com (Chris Crawford)
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 05:34:10 -0400

LOL, well color neg is a lot different than slide film. You have to give
enough exposure to ensure there is detail in the darkest tones that you want
detail rendered in. In contrasty conditions, that can mean the light tones
might be overexposed quite a bit, but it is ok. Color neg film can be
overexposed a lot without much loss in quality because when you print, you
can just use a longer print time to bring out the detail in the neg. They
scan easily too. Dodging and burning can bring back full detail in the
lightest and darkest areas of a picture shot in very high contrast light.

Overexposed up to 2 stops, you'll see no loss of quality, overexposed 4 the
print won't be the best, but you'll get a usable image. Underexposure,
however, is fatal in even small amounts. One stop under starts showing a big
increase in grain and loss of color saturation and dark tones will be empty
of detail and will be a dark grey full of grain. Yuck!

I shot negs for years, but now mostly shoot slides for color. They scan
easier, but if you're shooting in high contrast light or under non-daylight
sources, or you're shooting in situations where you may not be able to set
precise exposure, then negs win hands down.


Here's some scan from color negatives, Fuji NPS 160 (A portrait film that is
no longer made, sadly). I shot them at EI-80, a one-stop overexposure.

http://tinyurl.com/schneck1

http://tinyurl.com/schneck7


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On 6/6/11 4:19 AM, "PHC" <lug at paulhardycarter.com> wrote:

> Thanks Chris,
> 
> For years the only colour work I've done has been on transparency where, of
> course, any latitude there is is the other way.
> 
> What do they say about old dogs and new tricks?
> 
> P.
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> On 6 Jun 2011, at 09:15, Chris Crawford wrote:
> 
>> All color neg films have a lot of overexposure latitude, but none that I
>> have ever seen could tolerate any underexposure. I've always looked at the
>> box speeds on color neg films as somewhat wishful. I usually give them 2/3
>> stop more exposure and get best tonality that way.
>> 
>> 
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>> 260-486-2581
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> On 6/6/11 4:11 AM, "PHC" <lug at paulhardycarter.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for all your responses to this guys.
>>> 
>>> Since I'm not sure of the lighting conditions I'll be working with I'm 
>>> going
>>> to take a few rolls each of Ekter 100 and Portra, 160 & 400. I should be
>>> able
>>> to get something out of that lot!
>>> 
>>> One factor I forgot to ask about - do you have an impression that any of
>>> these
>>> films has a particularly broad exposure latitude?
>>> 
>>> Thanks again,
>>> 
>>> Paul.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On 3 Jun 2011, at 08:49, Kenneth Frazier wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 2, 2011, at 10:29 AM, PHC wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> What's considered the best of the bunch these days?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apparently I can now get very useable results from 400asa now?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Paul, I've used all the films mentioned so far, plus one that has not 
>>>> been
>>>> mentioned, the new Ektar 100, which scans beautifully, very fine grain,
>>>> smooth, great color.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, the "new" Portra 160 scans very well.
>>>> 
>>>> Ken
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