Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/06/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]No Tina, you should accept such shit treatment so easily. Sorry, but I am fed up with the cultural relativism that says "well, in Arab/Muslim countries they have this traditions of treating women as cows, and who are we westerners to question that?". Sorry, bullshit. Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog YNWA On Jun 5, 2011, at 4:05 AM, Tina Manley wrote: > When I lived in Iran, I wore a chador and had the same access to men's > meetings and social gatherings as any other woman - none. When I worked in > Iraq, I had a government minder and had the same access as any other > journalist. When I was in Jordan, I was traveling with two male > photographers. Men always shook their hands and refused to shake mine. > When we met with one Bedouin family, the patriarch refused to shake my hand > and his more modern sons (two were airline pilots for Saudi Air) insisted > so > he did. I would not have pushed it. They are entitled to their opinions > and beliefs. I am just very glad that I was not born in a country where > women are considered property. > > I do have photos of the Bedouin men all sitting on the floor and eating > their chicken and rice with their right hands while the women wait in the > kitchen to eat what is left over. I will see if I can find them. > > Tina > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > wrote: > >> Were you able to get shots like this Tina or were you excluded from the >> premises? >> >> Mark >> >> -------------------- >> Mark William Rabiner >> >> >> >>> From: Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 17:03:45 -0400 >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGS: Gathering at Qarabagh, Afghanistan >>> >>> Wonderful photos that depict the culture of the men of Afghanistan, much >>> like I remember Iran, Jordan and Iraq. I assume the women are in the >>> kitchen cooking and cleaning. >>> >>> Tina >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Hugh Thompson <hewthompson at mac.com> >> wrote: >>> >>>> Last Thursday ....... Thursday and Friday being the weekend in >> Afghanistan, >>>> I was invited to a country property in Qarabagh, a rural area some 35 >>>> kilometers north of Kabul. I was surrounded by people of great >> character, >>>> who were brimming with hospitality and open affection. The main >> attraction >>>> was a professional group of musicians, they played older songs that >> people >>>> sang and danced along with, they also played a special song for me. >> This is >>>> how Afghan men enjoy themselves. >>>> >>>> Hope you enjoy the journey, photographed in very difficult lighting >>>> conditions, at the top of a four storey house, with windows on all >> sides. >>>> >>>> < >>>> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Hugh+Thompson/2011stuff/SAM_0790.jpg.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> < >>>> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Hugh+Thompson/2011stuff/SAM_0793.jpg.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> < >>>> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Hugh+Thompson/2011stuff/SAM_0835.jpg.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> < >>>> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Hugh+Thompson/2011stuff/SAM_0830.jpg.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> < >>>> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Hugh+Thompson/2011stuff/SAM_0797.jpg.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> < >>>> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Hugh+Thompson/2011stuff/SAM_0822.jpg.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> < >>>> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Hugh+Thompson/2011stuff/SAM_0855.jpg.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> < >>>> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Hugh+Thompson/2011stuff/SAM_0856.jpg.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> < >>>> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Hugh+Thompson/2011stuff/SAM_0862.jpg.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you for looking, any comments will be gratefully received ....... >>>> Hugh >>>> >>>> >>>> "Pakistan, Afghanistan & South Asia" >>>> >>>> hewthompson at mac.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tina Manley, ASMP >>> www.tinamanley.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > > > -- > Tina Manley, ASMP > www.tinamanley.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >