[Leica] Sebastião Salgado

[benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney)]

Sure, its heaps of work, just not, in this case, by the photographer.
I don't think that diminishes the work at all - on the contrary, as
soon as you have enough cash/support/fame to have someone who is
really top-notch develop and print your work, do it, because it can
only help. ?In the case of Africa, much of the hard work that makes
the prints look like they do is done by:
Negatives - Philippe Bachelier:?http://www.philippebachelier.com
Prints - Nathalie Loparelli:
http://www.laboratoire-tirages-argentiques.com/prestation-eng.html
I am not sure who is doing Salgado's work since he switched to
digital, but I suspect his printer may be the same - he has negs made
from his files and then gets them printed on silver paper.

There are several advantages to this approach - someone who has
already spent more time in the darkroom than you ever can is printing
your work, freeing up more time for you to go and shoot and your
prints and exhibitions are as good as they can possibly be - how often
have you seen an exhibition of decent work that could have been better
printed or presented, but it's "the photographer's own work"?  It's
common.  I like the photographic process, but if I were printing an
exhibition, I'd get someone else to do it.  My time and is worth more
than what even the best printers cost, *to me*.

Marty

2011/5/31 Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>
> Its not magic. Its work.
> The people who don't feel like calling it work try to make it out as magic.
> The thing is the making of a full scale full substance print is not an
> exotic and rare thing which requires extreme mechanizations ?and 
> contortions
> it just required applied technique.
> Most photographers ?had darkrooms and they or their assistants did it on ?a
> regular ?basis commercially and sometimes also for the galleries.
> Home darkroom work by hobbyists though was a different thing the majority 
> of
> which people were taking the first thing out and the output in comparison
> was embarrassing but most hobbyists just never had the time nor inclination
> to perfect black and white photography let alone take it past the most 
> basic
> levels.
> Color though was ten times easier even though it required more complicated
> chemistry a water bath and a color head.
> There were of course a smaller core serious black and white amateurs doing
> work even better than the average pro's assistant but those were one out of
> every very many darkrooms which were out there. They average guy just 
> wanted
> to see if he could make out his kids face. If he could he moved on to the
> next neg. thee are no contortions involved Just making another print with
> dodging and burring and looking at it critically. Then making a next print
> and seeing if it worked out and fine tuning that one. It takes several
> sheets of paper to make a print. Though once you've hit on what you need to
> do you can then make several. In the end for every neg I'd print from I'd 
> go
> through ten or twelve sheets of paper. Hobbyists like to go though one.
> There is very little overlap between these two approaches. As there is very
> little overlap between the appearance of the result.
>
> Mark
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> > From: "Robert D. Baron" <robertbaron1 at gmail.com>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 08:38:11 -0500
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Sabastio Salgado
> >
> > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> You may not be able to take photos like his, but much of the tonal
> >> representation is about the professional who develops his film and his
> >> printer - both of whom are available to everyone, if you're willing to 
> >> pay.
> >>
> >> Marty
> >>
> >>
> > This is absolutely correct.
> >
> > --Bob
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