[Leica] IMG: My dog is famous (sort of)

[images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)]

You are right, Peter.  I was there telling you not to give your photos away
for nothing.  How do you know it had no commercial value?  I sell photos
every day that would be considered throwaway home happy snaps.  If you give
them away for nothing, you will never know if you could have sold them and
you diminish the value of all photography by giving your creative work
away..  Credit is worth demanding but only if it is accompanied by actual
money!!

I'll get off my soapbox now, but I hope no one ever gives their photos away
for only a credit :-(

Tina

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Peter Klein <pklein at threshinc.com> wrote:

> Nathan: I understand how you feel.  When I got the request, I could almost
> feel the sprit of Tina Manley on my shoulder, whispering disapprovingly in
> my ear (sorry, Tina).  :-)
>
> But the more I thought about it, the more I realized that I had more to
> gain by saying yes than no, and I was not taking bread out of any other
> photographer's mouth by saying yes.  The site mixes celebrity pet photos
> with stuff people voluntarily send in. And the photo they wanted had no
> real commercial value.  It's just a cute throwaway home happy snap.
> <http://www.peoplepets.com/photos/cute/hanukkah-2010-dog-and-cat-photos/10
> >
>
> So I could get a credit on a site that is associated with a prominent
> publication, or I could stand on principle and do nothing for anyone. My
> saying no would not persuade PeoplePets to pay for stuff, they are awash
> in silly point-and-shoot pet shots that people send in. They would have
> simply used someone else's shot, or had one less photo in the series.
>
> On the other hand, I was once asked to give one of my best photos away to
> the publicity company that handles PR for Seattle's summer fireworks
> display. In that case, I said a firm no.
> <
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24844563 at 
> N04/3691589024/sizes/o/in/set-72157622757851420/
> >
>
> The arts world is has always been rife with people not getting paid for
> things they do, and with people getting credit for what others have
> actually done. The Internet has only devalued our work further. In this
> case, I felt like getting a credit was worth it. If being able to say that
> People, Inc. published one of my photos helps get another of my photos
> published for pay someday, it will have been well worth it.  If not,
> nothing lost.
>
> --Peter
>
> > Peter,
>
> > Cute dog, but I would not have let a commercial site use a photo for
> free.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Nathan
>
> > Nathan Wajsman
> > Alicante, Spain
> > http://www.frozenlight.eu
> > http://www.greatpix.eu
> > http://www.nathanfoto.com
> > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>
> > YNWA
>
>
> > On Dec 3, 2010, at 12:54 AM, Peter Klein wrote:
>
> > My dog Tilly has just appeared in a ?Chanukah Pets? photo series on a
> site
> > of People Magazine?s, called PeoplePets.
> >
> http://www.peoplepets.com/photos/cute/hanukkah-2010-dog-and-cat-photos/10
> >
> > I?m happy to report that she wasn?t dressed up funny, she was merely
> > exercising one of her Border Terrier core competencies:  Mooching food!
> >
> > The editor saw the photo on flickr, contacted me and asked if they could
> > use it.  No, they don?t pay.  Evidently having a famous pet for fifteen
> > minutes should be sufficient reward.  Tilly has no plans to appear on any
> > reality shows in the forseeable future. Informed insiders say that our
> > relationship is rock-solid, so hold the stories on her leaving me for a
> > rock star.
> >
> > --Peter
> >
> >
> >
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Tina Manley, ASMP
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