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Subject: [Leica] Nikon or Canon Full Frame; All Good (Older User's Perspective)
From: rsphotoimages at comcast.net (Bob Shaw)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:08:25 -0700
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Ken:

Thanks for the tip on the sensor distance settings.

Hm-m-m-m.  Speaking of that, I wonder how many pages the Menu would be if in 
print?

Many, many thanks.

Bob


Bob Shaw
rsphotoimages at comcast.net


On Oct 24, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Ken Carney wrote:

> Hi Bob,
> 
> I know what you mean.  I essentially went from field view cameras to SLR 
> digital and there is sure no looking back for me.  If you haven't already, 
> be sure to use the feature on the 5DII that lets you set the optimum lens 
> to sensor distance for each lens.  I have the 24-70 2.8L and 70-200 2.8L 
> and it made a difference with those. Not so much with the Canon primes.  
> The 70-200 with IS is a hoot.  It's still hard to believe I'm shooting at 
> 1/10 second hand-held.
> 
> On 10/24/2010 3:37 PM, Bob Shaw wrote:
>> I was drawn to the D700 based on multiple Leitax posts and from other 
>> internet sources.
>> 
>> I went to Glaser's Camera in Seattle (Leica dealer) and negotiated - as 
>> in I didn't get stabbed too deeply - and traded of my entire R Kit:  R8, 
>> R9, 28-90 Asph, 70-180 APO, Motor Drive and Charger for what I thought 
>> was going to be a D700 with two zooms of similar range (if not quality).
>> 
>> I ended up with a 5D Mk II, 24-105 USM, 70-200 USM MkII and a 430 Mk II 
>> flash, primarily because the comparable Nikon kit was nearly $900.00 more 
>> for Nikon.  Because I promised myself whatever I "bought" would have to 
>> be a net zero transaction.  Nothing personal; just business.
>> 
>> Now in my opinion either camera is a major improvement just for the ease 
>> of shooting.
>> 
>> So, why all of a sudden this change?
>> 
>> 1.  After roughly 300 exposures, I see that I am now getting back what I 
>> saw through the view finder, not what the CD yields after scanning Leica 
>> R negs.  Dynamic Range to Burn.
>> 
>> 2.  Almost all my shots are in focus.  If they're not, it's still my 
>> fault for not believing what the little red rectangles were trying to 
>> tell me.
>> 
>> 3.  The full-frame sensor produces tons of dynamic range and very 
>> rewarding enlargements.  Of course, same with D700.
>> 
>> 4.  No more tiresome whining about poor shots to my patient, 
>> long-suffering wife.
>> 
>> 5.  I really grew tired of waiting for an R10 to hook up with my legacy 
>> Leica glass.
>> 
>> 6. Oh yeah, and I'm not getting any younger (indirect quote from Dr. Ted).
>> 
>> So my only film camera now is the trusty Contax T2 which is in rehab 
>> while I look for a replacement back door - the Kyocera Ceramic film 
>> pressure plate developed a hairline crack, rendering all exposures just 
>> slightly out of focus.  My wife can't wait for it to get well - she loves 
>> the camera and what it yields.  But it's a keeper.
>> 
>> To be sure, the Canon(Nikon) lenses are no match for the heft, haptics 
>> and results of Leica glass, but I've also been a bit amazed at the 
>> results from the new 70-200, especially hand held.  Come to think of it, 
>> the new 24-70 makes a great "on-camera" lens when I use it properly.
>> 
>> This isn't about D700 vs 5D Mk II.  It's about the freedom for an older 
>> guy with a less steady hand and focusing eye to harvest images worthy of 
>> keeping in iPhoto for later "migration" to Aperture for serious fine 
>> tuning.
>> 
>> This change has been so easy I almost felt guilty.  But I don't.
>> 
>> I'm enjoying photography again and will continue to contribute to the LUG 
>> as long I can be helpful and learn from such a fine collection of ladies 
>> and gentleman photographers.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,   Bob in Seattle
>> 
>> 
>> Bob Shaw
>> rsphotoimages at comcast.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Replies: Reply from kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney) ([Leica] Nikon or Canon Full Frame; All Good (Older User's Perspective))
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Message from kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney) ([Leica] Nikon or Canon Full Frame; All Good (Older User's Perspective))