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Subject: [Leica] Funny thing happened on Hawaiian Airlines......
From: benedenia at (Marty Deveney)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 07:22:35 +1030
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I've done this many times.  M cameras are smaller, but they don't
necessarily weigh less than other bodies.  The lenses are lighter than
some pro level huge zooms.  On Delta last month they were mostly
interested in my 50 odd rolls of film rather than my cameras.

The fee on most of the mainland airlines is $25 per bag, not $10.
Sort of makes the 'cheap' flight prices seem like a con, at least to a

Having said that, and if Simon Jessurun is still on the list he can
corroborate, in heavy turbulence overloaded (weight wise) overhead
compartments come open and stuff flies around.  It's happened to a
plane that I was on and it was pretty scary.  A couple of people who
got hit got taken off to the hospital at the next convenient point.

Use your head, sure, but make sure you keep all the eventualities in mind.


On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at> 
> We were waiting for an inter Island flight..... The gate personnel went
> around looking at and moving hand luggage before the flight to see if 
> anyone
> had violated the weight or size limitations. ?The 2 ladies around the 
> corner
> had a set of luggage that would never have made the size limitations for
> carry on, nor probably the weight limitations. ?They were really incensed
> when they were told they must put their luggage in the hold, and pay the 
> $10
> per bag fee for checked luggage....
> The guy sitting next to me had a small backpack. ?The personnel hefted his
> bag and told him to go to the scale and get it weighed. ?As you might 
> guess,
> he had a bunch of camera equipment in there.... and had indeed violated the
> 20 pound limit. ?He was told to check the bag or reduce its weight..... ?(
> can you imagine checking a bag full of camera stuff in an unpadded bag?) 
> ?So
> the guy takes out the Canon ( put in model number here, a big D-SLR with a
> long and heavy white lens) and puts it around his neck. ?Re-weighs the bag
> and passes. ?All is well, he made the cut. ?The camera was considered some
> form of "personal item".
> He goes back to his seat, looks around, and puts the camera back into the
> bag........and boards the flight.
> messages.....
> 1) It's all about the revenue
> 2) Use your head when dealing with the Airlines..... they have rules....
> which you must obey..... ?to the letter, and no further.
> 3) M cameras and lenses weigh less, are smaller, and appear to be in tiny
> camera cases that could not be heavy.
> My tiny Domke ?bag, complete with M body + 3 lenses + Leica Binoculars + my
> wife's P+S + 5 M8 batteries + lunch ..... was never questioned.
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at
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