Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/10/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Gee, I missed the moat. Bummer! ;-) Regards, Dick On Oct 08, 2010, at 10:35 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote: > I also last spring walked the first time walked across the Brooklyn bridge > and saw joggers in spandex and orthodox Jews wearing the black clothing and > hats they wear. Very few cameras. It was a Monday night and getting dark. > Credit cart cameras. > Its impossible to jump off it by the way. There's a moat and you walk on > the > center plank. They had to crack down on it I guess. Not that I was planning > on it. > > -------------------- > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > mark at rabinergroup.com > > >> From: "Richard S. Taylor" <r.s.taylor at comcast.net> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 21:38:26 -0400 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Daniel's Comments on a Leica EVIL Camera at LHSA >> Wetzlar >> >> Me too. When I walked across the Brooklyn Bridge in the Spring, I saw at >> least a half dozen G-1s and GF-1s in use. The Panasonic exhibit at >> Photokina >> was absolutely mobbed, too, and the exhibit seemed to be mostly about >> micro-4/3rds: still, HD video and 3D video. >> >> Regards, >> >> Dick >> >> >> >> On Oct 08, 2010, at 8:41 PM, slobodan Dimitrov wrote: >> >>> I'm surprised in the amount of 4/3 cameras that I see in the hands of the >>> average consumer. >>> S.d. >>> >>> On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Richard Taylor wrote: >>> >>>> I was also surprised at now many people were sporting Nikons and Canons, >>>> sometimes in addition to Leicas, sometimes not. There were quite a few >>>> micro-4/3rds cameras, too. >>>> >>>> What ever was in use, there were lots of pictures taken this year. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Dick >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 07, 2010, at 1:57 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: >>>> >>>>> I participated in an LHSA event in Solms/Wetzlar back in 1998 or 99 or >>>>> 2000 >>>>> and was struck by (1) the number of Leicas hanging from people's necks >>>>> and >>>>> shoulders, (2) the low frequency of same Leicas being lifted to the >>>>> eye in >>>>> order to take a picture. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Nathan >>>>> >>>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>>> Alicante, Spain >>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>>>> >>>>> YNWA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 12:34 AM, Richard Taylor wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, well, at 70 I was just a bit over the median age I think. Lotsa >>>>>> people took lotsa pictures. I'm just starting to go through them, >>>>>> and my >>>>>> shots from my week in Tokyo before the meeting, now. I'll try to post >>>>>> some soon. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Dick >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 06, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Getting too old for an LHSA event? No way, Dick! >>>>>>> Did anyone in the party actually take any pictures? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Nathan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>>>>> Alicante, Spain >>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>>>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>>>>>> >>>>>>> YNWA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Richard Taylor wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stefan Daniel was asked about the "R Solution" at the LHSA meeting >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> he replied with what I felt was considerable regret that it was >>>>>>>> economically unfeasible given the current competition in the DSLR >>>>>>>> market. But, ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He went on to talk about the development of a *full-frame* camera >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> an EVF that would be primarily directed at M users but that would >>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>> take R lenses with an adapter. They are also considering >>>>>>>> development of >>>>>>>> a line of autofocus lenses for this camera. Let's hope they don't >>>>>>>> snatch defeat from the jaws of victory on this one like they did >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> the X-1. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Another tidbit: Leica, at least for its M lenses, remains >>>>>>>> committed to >>>>>>>> the development of lenses that are fully corrected optically - no >>>>>>>> firmware corrections, please. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> By far the most interesting thing at Photokina was the new Fuji X100 >>>>>>>> that Fuji was showing in mockup only but with an operating >>>>>>>> viewfinder. >>>>>>>> The optical finder had projected frame lines and minimal info >>>>>>>> (shutter >>>>>>>> speed, f-stop and ISO) so it was nicely uncluttered. A flick of a >>>>>>>> switch >>>>>>>> converts the finder to an EVF. It uses an APS-C sensor and I saw >>>>>>>> nothing to make me think the frame lines were parallax corrected. >>>>>>>> Cool, >>>>>>>> nevertheless! It's about the size of a GF-1. It looks like an >>>>>>>> interesting camera and I look forward to seeing some images from it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Wetzlar meeting was a lot of fun, but having signed up for >>>>>>>> *all* the >>>>>>>> tours I ended the week walked out and considerably tired. Maybe I'm >>>>>>>> just getting too old for this kind of stuff. :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dick >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 06, 2010, at 5:35 AM, Richard Man wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ah, so it's not even "may be we will look at it in 2 years, but >>>>>>>>> NEVER" >>>>>>>>> :-( >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (well not that I use the R systems, but seeing stuff from Doug and >>>>>>>>> George, >>>>>>>>> clearly there is something there there) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp at >>>>>>>>> gmx.de> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I quote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> R-SYSTEM >>>>>>>>>> A digital solution in the form of a R10 was not presentable. Such >>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>> investment would have been to great for Leica. The development of >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> S-System cost ?30m. A similar effort for a digital R was not >>>>>>>>>> fundable. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not presentable (nicht darstellbar) should be "not feasible" - >>>>>>>>>> it's an >>>>>>>>>> expression often used by engineers - so what was actually meant >>>>>>>>>> above >>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "we took a look at the idea and shelved it 'cos we couldn't >>>>>>>>>> afford it >>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>> month of Sundays, and it wouldn't be profitable even if we could" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>> Douglas >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 06.10.2010 06:00, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely understandable disappointment for R lens owners of >>>>>>>>>>> course. >>>>>>>>>>> However the expectaiton for a 'solution' this Photokina came >>>>>>>>>>> entirely >>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>> speculation and desire rather than specific promise. All largely >>>>>>>>>>> unremarked >>>>>>>>>>> here but there has been an awful lot of anguish and emotional >>>>>>>>>>> outpouring, >>>>>>>>>>> dummy spitting, rants and stompimg out of the room in the >>>>>>>>>>> (dedicated) >>>>>>>>>>> L >>>>>>>>>>> Camera Forum. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Stefan Daniel told us in mid 2009 that they were working on the >>>>>>>>>>> 'suitable >>>>>>>>>>> solution' but not to expect it before this Photokina etc. That >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> course >>>>>>>>>>> has now slipped further but at least they have provided some >>>>>>>>>>> slightly >>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>> specific information on the possible form that it may take (in >>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>> terms). I think that Leica Camera have learnt a lesson there and >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> less >>>>>>>>>>> likely to provide any specific models and developments that are >>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>> planned >>>>>>>>>>> or not. >>>>>>>>>>> According to an attendee at the LHSA meeting in Wtezlar Leica >>>>>>>>>>> management >>>>>>>>>>> have now excluded the possible solution prior to photokina 2012. >>>>>>>>>>> Personally I am still stunned tht the S2 development costs were >>>>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>>> 30 >>>>>>>>>>> million EURO and I note their comment that other medium format >>>>>>>>>>> camera >>>>>>>>>>> manufacturers occupied something like 50% less floor space at >>>>>>>>>>> pk. Not >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> reassuring indicator for the genre, if unsurprising. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>> Geoff >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 6 October 2010 13:33, Jayanand Govindaraj<jayanand at >>>>>>>>>>> gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like they are working overtime to 'repair their finances' >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>>> being. Can't blame them for that, it is a pragmatic business >>>>>>>>>>>> decision. >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>> Jayanand >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Geoff Hopkinson<hopsternew at >>>>>>>>>>>> gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy Barton, a MOD on the L Camera Forum has posted a summary >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> responses >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> from Leica Camera Executives to a number of questions on Leica >>>>>>>>>>>>> products >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> policy. >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can read it here, even if not a meber of that forum >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/144758-leic >>>>>>>>>>>> a-luf-%40-pkina-english.html >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>>> Geoff >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> >>>>>>>>> // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.wordpress.com> >>>>>>>>> // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> >>>>>>>>> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all >>>>>>>>> previous >>>>>>>>> replies in your msgs. ] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information