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Subject: [Leica] a shot in the dark - life at iso 25600
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:35:39 +0200
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Yes, I know, and I have fast lenses--35/1.2 and 50/1.4. But even with those, 
I often find myself in situations where I would love to be able to use an 
ISO speed higher than the 1250 which I find the tolerable limit on the M8. 
With the capabilities demonstrated by Kyle's Nikon I would also be able to 
use my 24/3.8 or 75/2.5 in dark places.

And yes, the M9 supposedly does better at high ISOs, but still nowhere near 
as well as Kyle's Nikon. Surely this must be the focus of Leica in 
developing the M10 and subsequent generations of the M system.

Cheers,
Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu
http://www.greatpix.eu
http://www.nathanfoto.com
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YNWA





On Aug 19, 2010, at 10:25 PM, Tina Manley wrote:

> That's why we have 1.0 lenses.  In all of my years of shooting film, I used
> a few rolls of 1600 film and even pushed it to 3200 to shoot at night by
> candlelight.  I used ISO 400 90% of the time.  The M9 is fine at 400 or 
> even
> 640 but you rarely need it with 1.0 or 1.4 lenses.
> 
> Tina
> 
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Why? No offense to Kyle as I am a BIG fan of his photography but when is
>> the
>> last time you see a ISO 100000 PRINT that you want to hang in your house?
>> 
>> M9 does reasonably clean ISO1600. If they up it to 3200, that will be good
>> enough for most people.
>> 
>> What the heck am I saying? The M9 is more than good enough for just about
>> anybody :-)
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> How I wish an M8 or M9 could do even half of this :-(
>>> 
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>> 
>>> YNWA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 19, 2010, at 8:19 PM, Kyle Cassidy wrote:
>>> 
>>>> full res of a shot from last night at 1/100 sec f 2.8 iso 25,600 with a
>>> tokina 28mm on the Leica D700:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.kylecassidy.com/lj/2010/absinthe-25600.jpg
>>>> 
>>>> it was pretty darn dark in there. if you can see it, you can shoot it,
>>> and at something of a reasonable shutter speed as well.
>>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
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