Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/08/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]It helps to print FOR somebody. If its your own privet stash of prints of your kids and cats you won't care about the richness of your blacks or fine points of print color. Doting relatives don't care about print quality. Completing the circle means getting them on the wall of a coffee shop or gallery. And or you have a "portfolio" a stack of prints you show to many people and is a constant work in progress. I think a camera club can be a great thing if its not the wrong one or a class or seminar. Maine or Santa Fee or anywhere in between. Its hard to be an isolated photographer. People. Groups of them. And you'd think you cant be with the internet but I'm seeing you can. I did a lot of work in a color rental darkroom which helped me keep perspective and balance. On a rush job I'd even do some black and white there too dry to dry in 45 seconds. It helps to have them breathing down your neck and be seeing what the other guys are up to. When I meet people who are not professional photographers and they have darkrooms if they do show my their prints its amazing how bad tetchily they are 99 percent of the time. Its like people take the first thing out every single time. I think Freud called it Anal expulsive. The opposite of retentive. Others call it "take it or leave it". Recently on the lug it was called "what you see it what you get". For darkroom you need a healthy dose of retentive. -------------------- Mark William Rabiner Photography mark at rabinergroup.com > From: Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 14:23:41 +0930 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Greatest B&W Printers of all time? > > Just decide what you want to learn first and go from there. There's > nothing stopping you from becoming an excellent printer, by either > method. > > Marty > > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> > wrote: >> My darkroom skill is probably the "advanced beginner" level. I do some >> dodging and burning but the most complex thing I have done is 3 dodging >> areas and 12 work prints to get something I like enough. I have seen some >> excellent "mortal" prints, I guess advanced advanced levels. They are >> miles >> better than mine. And then there are the truly masterpieces. They just >> sort >> of take your breath away.... >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Agreed entirely George. ?Books are nice to look at. ?You don't learn >>> how to print from the photos in books. >>> >>> Watching Voja or Nathalie Loparelli or any number of other great >>> printers work is an incredible education, as valuable as looking at >>> their prints. >>> >>> Marty >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:13 PM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> >>> wrote: >>>> So very true Marty. >>>> >>>> I think one must also put energy, effort >>>> and take every opportunity >>>> to see the various master's prints >>>> in galleries and museum collections. >>>> >>>> The books, no matter how well printed, >>>> will never do in developing the sensitivity >>>> you're referring to. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> George Lottermoser >>>> george at imagist.com >>>> http://www.imagist.com >>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 18, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Marty Deveney wrote: >>>> >>>>> No-one can expect >>>>> to just jump in and have that judgment or skill. ?The best things >>>>> about workshops are that you can see really first-rate work, which >>>>> helps develop sensitivity, and technique that can help you get there, >>>>> and faster. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> >> // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.wordpress.com> >> // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> >> [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all >> previous >> replies in your msgs. ] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information