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Subject: [Leica] back to printing
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 04:49:40 -0400
References: <300595.45019.qm@web82101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It's Roy Harrington.  He and Paul Roark lead the B&W printing workshop that
I attend in Golden Trout.  Roy is a great guy.  He had a borrowed M9 to play
with the week we were there and really liked it.  Roy gave a couple of
lectures on Lightroom and likes the printing module there.  I have
Imageprint, too, but haven't decided whether to upgrade to the latest
version.  Expensive but very, very good.

Tina

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:36 AM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Expensive indeed.
> QTR is a terrific tool, but only for B&W, as you know. Ed Harrington is not
> only a terrific software engineer but an outstanding photographer.
> His RIP requires more technical profiling skills than ImagePrint and I do
> not have the sophisticated light controlled environment nor premier
> profiling equipment that would be required to get QTR to function 
> optimally.
> So I chose to take the easy way out and go into debt! :-)
> Best,
> Bob
>
> PS- Ed's work can be seen in Palo Alto at Gallery Nine and at The Gallery
> House.
>
> Bob Adler
> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>
> On Jul 11, 2010, at 11:06 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Bob,
> Imageprint are quoting US$700 for an upgrade from IP7 Lite version for
> the Epson R2400 to IP8 Full version for the 3885. I am a long term
> user & fan, but I have not decided on this as yet, as I am also
> evaluating QuadTone Rip. IP,s advantage, as you point out is all those
> great profiles for practically any combination of ink & paper.
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ken,
> I just traded my Colorburst for ImagePrint. I did so after comparing
> multiple images printed from both engines using profiles supplied by the
> software developers. ImagePrint provided greater detail and tonality than
> Colorburst, no contest.
> The only profiling equipment you will need is for your monitor. ImagePrint
> provides profiles for a plethora of papers under different viewing
> situations. I think it is wonderful. The cost of spectrophotometers for
> monitor profiling only has decreased dramatically over the past 6 years.
> Best of luck,
> Bob
>
> Bob Adler
> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>
> On Jul 11, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>
> I'm making an effort to get back to printing.  I think I've printed more in
> the last few weeks than in the last few years (darkroom closed about 5-6
> years ago).   For b&w, I'm printing on Epson Velvet Fine Art 13x19 with the
> QuadTone RIP software, with the curves set to slightly warm (55% warm 
> curve,
> 45% cool curve, not split-toned).   One epiphany was that I didn't have to
> mat and frame every image - a 13x19 portfolio box(es) with interleaf 
> tissues
> works fine (the matte paper is very fragile).    Here are two from today
> that I have not printed since the darkroom days:
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/kcarney/angel.jpg.html
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/kcarney/mesa+verde.jpg.html
>
> As I recall, the "angel" photo was with a CV rangefinder and Nokton 50mm
> 1.5 lens.  The photo of the ruins at Mesa Verde was with a Linhof Technica
> and, I think, a 210mm Schneider lens and TMax 100 4x5 developed in TMax
> developer 1:9.  I like both of the prints better than what I could do in 
> the
> darkroom.
>
> I'm still not sure what to do about color.  My copy of ImagePrint RIP is
> for XP, and it is unable to find my printer (even though attached and not
> shared) in virtual XP in Windows 7.  Plus it is 6 years old and no doubt 
> the
> paper profiles have changed over the years.  I guess bite the bullet and 
> buy
> profiling gear.
>
> C&C welcome as always.
>
> Ken Carney
> Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
>
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Tina Manley, ASMP
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