Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/04/02

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Subject: [Leica] Demise of film
From: chs2018 at med.cornell.edu (Chris Saganich)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 12:17:37 -0400
References: <k2r6a7544a61004010830h591711e6ve591498deaec0bfa@mail.gmail.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20100401142146.035ef030@med.cornell.edu> <g2l3cad89991004020307x319501cfx28917f01689c8ded@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, B&L were extremely innovative and encouraged partnerships and 
breakaways from their research rather then trying to control everything.

At 06:07 AM 4/2/2010, you wrote:
>Another Rochester survivor of those days was Bausch & Lomb.
>Cheers
>Jayanand
>
>On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Chris Saganich 
><chs2018 at med.cornell.edu>wrote:
>
> >
> > Eastman set-up that town for failure early on.  Before Eastman put the
> > screws to the place Rochester was one of the most successful and creative
> > cities in the North East regarding technology.  That's the reason Eastman
> > set up shop there because of the already highly advanced work in 
> > precision
> > manufacturing and  optical work.  Eastman came to complete dominate the
> > Rochester economy choking off or swallowing up nearly every other 
> > business
> > in town.  Xerox, named Haloid at the time was a photo supply operation 
> > and
> > survived the Eastman onslaught because they were so small as to go
> > unnoticed.  They bought the rights to a process invented by a clerk in an
> > electrical machine patten office to copy diagrams for patten research and
> > then developed photo-copy paper and machines to use the process.  By that
> > time Rochester was already a efficient company town and Xerox despite its
> > innovative spirit couldn't return Rochester to its pre-Kodak dynamic
> > economy.  Efficient company towns are destined to stagnate and fail so if
> > your living in one get-out while you can and don't look back!
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > At 11:30 AM 4/1/2010, you wrote:
> >
> >> *Q. What percent of your sales are film cameras?*
> >>
> >> The film cameras are running under 5 percent.
> >>
> >> This doesn't really tell me anything. Is that based on unit sales or
> >> revenue?
> >>
> >> Even if you knew the answer, the real question is how many units  of
> >> film cameras were sold last year compared to the units sold the year
> >> before that.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Richard Man wrote:
> >> > Sad. The digital onslaught continues...
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> 
> http://www.northjersey.com/news/89346507_Leica_president_focused_on_big_picture.html?c=y&page=1
> >> >
> >> - - - - - - -
> >>
> >> The real question is how much film is being sold and how long will it
> >> continue to be available. Film cameras live a very long time. I took 
> >> some
> >> pictures the other day with a 60 year old camera (Leica IIIc) using an 
> >> 80
> >> year old lens (Elmar 35mm f3.5).  According to my two relatives still
> >> gainfully employed at at Kodak the commercial film operation will be 
> >> shut
> >> down within 10 years. This brings a sense of gloom and doom to 
> >> Rochester,
> >> NY, a city that prospered on the basis of full Kodak employment. Too 
> >> bad.
> >> Rochester and its suburbs are really quite nice and houses and real 
> >> estate
> >> are going at a small fraction of their price in boom years.
> >>
> >> Now if everyone bought Leicas with Kodak made sensors - - -
> >>
> >> Larry Z (a dissatisfied Kodak stockholder)
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
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In reply to: Message from lrzeitlin at gmail.com (Lawrence Zeitlin) ([Leica] Demise of film)
Message from chs2018 at med.cornell.edu (Chris Saganich) ([Leica] Demise of film)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Demise of film)