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Subject: [Leica] stupid questions 4ever.... and some IMAGES of the fallen 40 foot pine.
From: robertmeier at usjet.net (Robert Meier)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:59:52 -0500 (CDT)
References: <19b6d42d1003260047w356bc2cl62a9c008834f3171@mail.gmail.com>

Distressing amount of flare from those candles.


On Mar 26, 2010, at 2:47 AM, Vince Passaro wrote:

> Also on the just go out and shoot front I dumped my card onto my  
> computer
> tonight and discovered I'd taken 400 and some pictures in the last  
> 30 hours.
> I was working on a couple of projects and ideas; alas many of these  
> images
> are dull and redundant but -- I do shoot.
>
> Did I ever post my said pictures of the fallen pine and the four  
> days of
> blackout? Followed by the arrival of spring, coming in after that  
> mayhem
> like a late and overweight hero? Here they be:
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/toast+eatin_+bog+man/  -- and go  
> to first
> gallery featuring the guy sawing the tree. All photos taken with G1  
> and
> 14-45 kit zoom.
>
> For fans of Scrabble, the pictured game ended at 295 to 286, my favor.
> Closest game I've played. With the baby and other trials of a cold  
> cold dark
> house it took three nights to finish.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Nathan Wajsman  
> <photo at frozenlight.eu>wrote:
>
>> You over-analyze everything, Vince. I have a simple suggestion:  
>> remember
>> that rule of thumb in the 35mm world about using 1/focal length as  
>> the
>> slowest handholdable speed? (Allowing for individual variation in  
>> ability to
>> handhold). Apply the same rule in the digital world, but now using  
>> the
>> effective focal length of the lens. So, for example, the 45mm on a  
>> MFT
>> camera is equivalent to a 90mm lens on a 35mm camera and therefore  
>> you
>> should shoot at speeds of 1/90 sec. or faster.
>>
>> Or just forget even the simple rules above, just go out and shoot  
>> and make
>> your own decisions based on what you see.
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>
>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2010, at 7:40 AM, Vince Passaro wrote:
>>
>>> OK so -- clearly I don't get what's going on inside these wee camera
>>> thingies we like to play with. This is what I'm wondering about  
>>> -- the
>>> camera 'enlarges' the image? Blows it up as we would on an  
>>> enlarger in
>> the
>>> old days or in Photoshop or LR now? But it doesn't take the 20mm and
>> "blow
>>> it up" to 40mm? It only takes the larger 45mm and "blows it up"  
>>> to 90mm?
>>> Somehow the smaller image blows itself up? Ergo watch out for camera
>> shake
>>> at 45mm? I have the 14-45 zoom so there's more effect of camera  
>>> shake at
>> the
>>> 45mm end because of this blowing up?
>>>
>>> I can understand the following: the medium is 36 x 24 and you're  
>>> using a
>>> 35mm lens so it looks like "X". You cut the medium in half, so  
>>> the image
>>> becomes cropped and to some degree magnified by a factor of 1.5  
>>> and if
>>> halved again, cropped and magnified to 2 times "X".
>>>
>>> So where does this englarging and camera shake issue come in?  
>>> Only at 45?
>>> Why not at 20? Isn't (then) a 20mm image on a mFT camera twice as  
>>> 'shaky'
>> as
>>> a 20mm image on a 35mm film camera? And shaky exactly to the  
>>> extent of a
>>> 40mm lens on a 35mm camera? Same going from 45 to 90? Only more so?
>>>
>>> Huh?
>>>
>>> My confusion on this point will look absurd to people who  
>>> understand what
>>> they're talking about; my hope is that someday, looking back on  
>>> it, it
>> will
>>> look absurd to me as well.
>>>
>>> Vince
>>>
>>
>>
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Replies: Reply from sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter) ([Leica] stupid questions 4ever.... and some IMAGES of the fallen 40 foot pine.)
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