Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/03/05

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Subject: [Leica] Crazy
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:56:27 -0500
References: <622400.51933.qm@web111720.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <C85EAC0E-2D0C-4B65-8CEF-86DC7FFAD127@mac.com> <eb6799211003051253w47d16e7ex7d0db02ed3276cda@mail.gmail.com> <478F2DC7-FEC7-44F0-A962-7724C2E8C68B@mac.com> <80E82F6B-7AFA-47B3-9790-954E2856D5F5@gmail.com> <F5C12024-99F5-4DAD-835A-F8C9991FA1A7@mac.com>

When you put it that way, I agree completely, but the problem is in deciding
who will say whether the photograph steps over the line.  The manipulation
of this photo does seem to fit within the guidelines of the NPPA:
http://www.nppa.org/professional_development/business_practices/ethics.html
<http://www.nppa.org/professional_development/business_practices/ethics.html>But
this contest was for the World Press which might have different guidelines.
 I still think about Patrick Schneider who was fired from the Charlotte
Observer and lost the photographer of the year award for adding saturation
to the colors in a photo.

Tina

On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:37 PM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> 
wrote:

> I don't think there's any corruption going on
> either by the photographer or the competition.
>
> They're simply taking a "rule" to its ridiculous extreme;
> without using common sense or knowledge of the the history of the craft;
> not to mention the art.
>
> The rule intends to eliminate intentional, significant visual lies and
> fraud.
> In its wake we lose the reasonable, ethical use of the current tools of our
> craft.
>
> To pose the question in this case seems reasonable.
> "Does this photograph step over the line of journalistic or documentary
> ethics?"
> The decision of "yes" seems to me unreasonable.
>
> At a simpler, superficial level:
> "does this photograph break our silly rule?"
> okay "yes."
> case closed.
>
> Sad - because the "finished" photograph worked - full of feeling, strong
> and relevant.
>
>
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george at imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>
> On Mar 5, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>
>  it may be that the corruption lies in the competition, not the photograph.
>>
>
>
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-- 
Tina Manley, ASMP
www.tinamanley.com


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