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Subject: [Leica] Sensor cleaning revisited
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:55:28 -0600
References: <36172e5a1003021807sc386aag5660bae386eaa8cb@mail.gmail.com> <FA42BD7C-6A39-4634-BE39-0E7EBC9C4101@frozenlight.eu>

Much as I envy the M8/M9 users, these recent cleaning tales make me more 
pleased every day that I am using a couple of Oly E-thingies.  I am happy to 
keep things very simple.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at frozenlight.eu>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Sensor cleaning revisited


> Wow, this sounds scary Geoff. I bet several doses of "blood pressure 
> medication" were needed during and after this process.
>
> Because of tales like this, I have a simple rule: never put any liquid on 
> the sensor, never touch it with anything wet. I use Sensor Scope. The kit 
> does contain liquid and swabs but I have never used them; the little 
> vacuum cleaner has until now been adequate on my M8 and before that on my 
> Canon cameras. Of course, with Olympus I did not need any sensor cleaning 
> thanks to the built-in dust removal system. I wish Leica had the same 
> thing.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2010, at 3:07 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>
>> I had a recent exchnge on and off list regarding cleaning the M9 sensor.
>> When I just cleaned mine ( which has not had heavy use), I was dismayed 
>> to
>> find that I had persistent streaks, some of which looked alarmingly like
>> fine scratches.
>> I was confident that I had been careful. I used the Arctic butterfly 
>> brush
>> first to remove any loose dust and then did a careful wet pass with 
>> Visible
>> Dust Plus. I only had 1.3x size swabs.
>> The streaks remained after 3 separate cleaning cycles with new swabs each
>> time.
>> I repeated this all with the Dust Aid kit which uses swabs that you need 
>> to
>> manually wind around the spatula and their fluid. Same result. My Leica
>> dealer repeated this, same result.
>> We could not budge the easily visible streaks although they were 
>> completely
>> undetectable on test images at high magnification on a monitor.
>>
>> Today I repeated the dry clean folowed by a wet clean with the Eclipse 
>> type
>> 3 (size) swab and their fluid. They no longer consider the E2 fluid
>> necessary for tin oxide sensors and recommend their standard fluid for 
>> every
>> sensor.
>> A single pass in each direction completely removed every trace of the
>> streaks and I am a happy camper. I believe that the streaks I had were
>> either traces of oil, possibly from the swab touching the surrounds of 
>> the
>> sensor (shutter lubricant??), drying marks from the fluids used (qty?) or 
>> a
>> combination of both.
>>
>> I note that the Eclipse fluid contains methanol.
>> Visible Dust fluid does not and they state that methanol can damage the 
>> seal
>> of the covering bonded to the sensor.
>> Leica recommends isopropyl alcohol.
>> In any event I wanted to report my experiences. I'm sure that others will
>> have had different experiences and views. Incidentally the Eclipse swabs
>> actually cost even more here than the Visible Dust products so that 
>> should
>> please those who considered I was skimping by trying the Dust aid swabs 
>> when
>> my Visible Dust ones (M8 size) ran out!
>>
>> Cheers
>> Geoff
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>
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