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Subject: [Leica] Hassy CFV workflow suggestions?
From: imagist3 at mac.com (George Lottermoser)
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:27:16 -0600
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yes. they are referenced as .3FR files directly from the back.

Regards,
George Lottermoser
george at imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com/blog
http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist

On Feb 13, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Bob Adler wrote:

> Were they the RAW files?
>  Bob Adler
> Palo Alto, CA
> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com>
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 6:10:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Hassy CFV workflow suggestions?
>
> I had no trouble opening CFV 39 image files in Lightroom 2.6 when I  
> tested the back.
>
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george at imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>
> On Feb 13, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Richard Man wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty sure the Adobe Photoshop and LR both use the ACR (Adobe  
>> Raw
>> Converter) engine inside? So if CS4 supports it and LR doesn't,  
>> then it may
>> just be a matter of time for the upgrade?
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I hope I'm not being redundant with what other's have said here,  
>>> but I
>>> don't think LR can import 3f files. CS4 can (Imacon just released  
>>> the RAW
>>> converter for CS4) but LR can't.
>>>
>>> What you have to do is go in and change the .fff (or whatever it  
>>> is for the
>>> files from the back) to .tif. Though you would think this would  
>>> lose your
>>> RAW file abilities, it doesn't. It's still the RAW information.  
>>> This learned
>>> after a long conversation with an Imacon tech.
>>>
>>> Works very well for me with my Imacon scanned RAW (.fff) files  
>>> into LR.
>>> Best,
>>> Bob
>>>  Bob Adler
>>> Palo Alto, CA
>>> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: "afirkin at afirkin.com" <afirkin at afirkin.com>
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 12:05:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Hassy CFV workflow suggestions?
>>>
>>> George, rant away, I think we all understand ;-) If you don't change
>>> computers, the software last longer in my experience. But of  
>>> course by
>>> buying the 39 you have pretty big files to deal with, not  
>>> something my
>>> first iBook could deal with ;-)
>>>
>>> Cheers and good luck with LR. I really do like the workflow, and  
>>> found
>>> phocus too "focused" on Blad alone.
>>>
>>> Alastair
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mark...nope..photoshop CS won't open em unless you "upgrade" to  
>>>> CS4 or
>>>> something else needlessly "feature rich"...
>>>> Alastair...thanks for that, I now see that LR can actually  
>>>> create finish
>>>> files and can use various plug ins and now realize that I can  
>>>> open the
>>>> files
>>>> in photoshop CS and NOT, importantly, "upgrade" to any "face
>>> recognizing",
>>>> "GPS locating" "made easy-for-you" "new and better"  
>>>> software...hell, I
>>> was
>>>> really upset that I had to "upgrade" to CS in the first  
>>>> place...not to
>>>> mention it took me a while to figure out how to stop iPhoto from  
>>>> grabbing
>>>> and "filing" all of my images...sorry for the rant...just can't  
>>>> stand the
>>>> constant forced march to having to continually spend more money  
>>>> to do the
>>>> same simple task. Anyway, now if I can figure out how the hell
>>>> LRs file model works so I can fit it into my dyslexic and  
>>>> disorganized
>>>> world
>>>> view, I'll be all set...but now I see at least I can create a giant
>>> output
>>>> file for printing from my print supplier...thanks very much! By  
>>>> the way,
>>>> Hasselblad's Phocus has no provisions for outputing files like  
>>>> LR does
>>> and
>>>> since it looks and works very similar to LR, I just assumed LR was
>>> equally
>>>> functionally disabled. I asked Hasselblad about whether they  
>>>> were at all
>>>> worried that other photo processing software that would need to  
>>>> import
>>>> Phocus files would alter them somehow and they said they didn't  
>>>> think any
>>>> file alteration would occur. I'm not so sure about that...so,  
>>>> Phocus is
>>>> out,
>>>> LR seems to be in and since I do no retouching and only minor  
>>>> alterations
>>>> in
>>>> levels I may not need to go to photoshop CS anymore...just hope  
>>>> I don't
>>>> have
>>>> to "upgrade" LR continuously from now on...Thanks again,
>>>> George
>>>> Chicago
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/12/10 8:28 AM, "lug-request at leica-users.org"
>>>> <lug-request at leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Message: 25
>>>>> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:57:12 -0500
>>>>> From: afirkin at afirkin.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Hassy CFV workflow suggestions?
>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> <9f1b6d88c5bf21d0db2f9636da96a83c.squirrel at emailmg.globat.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>>>>
>>>>> George,
>>>>> The blad files are not really supported by the smaller  
>>>>> companies. I"m
>>>>> about to get a portable storage device and it won't show the blad
>>>>> images.
>>>>> There was a small software called image converter I think, but in
>>>>> reality
>>>>> importing into lightroom and automatically converting the files  
>>>>> into DNG
>>>>> is probably the best way for you to go and LR really does a  
>>>>> great job
>>>>> with
>>>>> "printing" once you learn it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> alastair
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello...
>>>>>> I managed to aquire a CFV back for my Hassy V system (hurray!)
>>>>>> but am really stuck about software. All I want is a quick  
>>>>>> cheap easy
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> convert Hassy raw files to be able to use them in Photoshop  
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> having
>>>>>> to buy $800 bucks worth of Adobe's Creative Suite. I've got
>>>>>> Hasselblad's
>>>>>> Phocus software, which is like Lightroom but you don't have  
>>>>>> any output
>>>>>> flexibility (size of print etc) ...and Lightroom is just plain
>>>>>> frustrating and confusing to me. I don't want any features,  
>>>>>> filters,
>>>>>> post
>>>>>> processing gizmos, skins or any of that...just gimme a usable  
>>>>>> file in
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> Mac
>>>>>> version of Photoshop that I already own (CS I think) and let  
>>>>>> me make
>>>>>> prints!
>>>>>> Man, do I hate this fetish that software companies have for  
>>>>>> layering on
>>>>>> features that I don't want. In fact, I wish I didn't have to use
>>>>>> photoshop
>>>>>> at all and could use a cheap piece of open source software  
>>>>>> that has NO
>>>>>> features except file translation and output...period. Anyone  
>>>>>> got any
>>>>>> suggestions?
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> George
>>>>>> Chicago
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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