Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/02/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Feb 1, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Ric Carter wrote: > yes, speed events are decided by advantage in the details. look at auto > design in F1 > > still, the sensible foul moment is the firing of the gun, not .1 or .01 or > .001 or .0125 seconds after firing the gun > > if anticipation fouls are a problem, don't give second chances > > occum's razor of rules--the easier it is to write and explain, the better > the rule;^) bang, simple... agree, Steve > > ric > > > > > On Feb 1, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: > >> Ric I think it has evolved because people will test every possible option >> to >> gain a tiny advantage, especially where the difference between winning and >> second place can be measured in hundredths of a second. >> Think about it. EVERYONE wants to anticipate the gun as well as possible >> and >> be moving the first possible legal instant after the bang. There has to >> be a >> line somewhere. As far as I know, the .10 second is set to be below any >> known recorded human response. You can't rewire your electrical impulses >> to >> move your body that fast! it is just physically impossible. >> Everyone anticipates and its a level playing field. Especially with >> sprinters at this level, very likely they all have superb reflexes and >> reaction times to go with those explosive fast twitch fibres all wired >> with >> adrenalin. ANYTHING for an edge. Ask a certain Canadian sprinter Ted knows >> well. Another athlete false starting also causes a restart which can >> disadvantage everyone too. Similar system happens in swimming of course. >> Now >> the 10,000 and the marathon tend to make such things irrelevant!' >> Cheers >> Geoff (very ex-marathoner) >> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >> >> >> On 2 February 2010 02:57, Ric Carter <ricc at embarqmail.com> wrote: >> >>> the more i think about this, the more asinine it is. >>> >>> suppose an athlete (as is likely) has quicker reaction times than average >>> or thought possible? >>> >>> It not far from denying Usain Bolt a gold medal because he ran the 100 >>> meters faster than was possible for a human being. >>> >>> ric >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 1, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Steve Barbour wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 1, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Frank Dernie wrote: >>>> >>>>> IIRC yes, in the Olympic Games there is a time after the gun goes off >>> which is considered to be less than human reaction time, so if anybody >>> goes >>> during this period it is considered a false start. >>>>> >>>>> !!! >>>> >>>> amazing, documentaion of this fact/rule available? >>>> >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information