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Subject: [Leica] Use of M8
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 06:40:19 +0100
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You are absolutely right, Ted, I do not care. It just aroused my curiosity.

Cheers,
Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
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On Jan 18, 2010, at 6:34 AM, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Nathan Wajsman said:
> Subject: [Leica] Use of M8
>>>> I did notice one very peculiar thing when looking at M8 pictures last 
>>>> night. At first, I was annoyed that Leica had reset the numbering. But 
>>>> OK, I figured that was an inevitable by-product of the repair.  But 
>>>> then I noticed that the exif data includes aperture information, even 
>>>> for uncoded lenses! And I am not talking about the maximum aperture; 
>>>> with both coded and uncoded lenses, the M8 now tries to estimate the 
>>>> actual aperture used. It is not always correct (some shots I took at 
>>>> f1.2 are variously identified as having been taken at f1.4, f1.7 and 
>>>> even f2) but it is mostly in the correct  ballpark.<<<<<<<,,
> 
> But Nathan you are a photographer first! Don't sweat the numbers crap as 
> it doesn't mean anything "AFTER THE PICTURE IS TAKEN!"
> 
> I imagine  techie people want to know this stuff, but does it really mean 
> anything after the picture is recorded as a brilliant photograph or a 
> happy snap of nothing?
> 
> One of the troubles with digital is the techie designers have built in all 
> this extra stuff we in the real world of the film times never knew, nor 
> did anyone ever concern what the hell an exif was! It didn't exist, so why 
> bother with it today.
> 
> That is unless someone can point out to me that knowing and using it? It 
> will truly improve my photographs.
> cheers,
> ted
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Hi Geoff,
>> 
>> Yes, the Passport is nice. It and the weak pound were the main reason I 
>> bought the M8 in the UK.
>> 
>> As for future use--I bought the M8 to take pictures, not to baby, so I 
>> will not be doing anything different, except that I will continue to use 
>> the little Panasonic LX3 as the cycling camera.
>> 
>> 
>> The version of the firmware is the same as before, so it must be some 
>> special Solms black magic :-)
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>> 
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>> 
>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 18, 2010, at 12:21 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>> 
>>> An excellent outcome for you Nathan! Congratulations. I guess that you 
>>> are
>>> very pleased to have bought your M8 from the UK with that generous 
>>> Passport
>>> coverage. The US folks and we Aussies don't have such a scheme.  The 
>>> firmer
>>> shutter mode selection has been a much requested change in some quarters 
>>> too
>>> (to reduce the likelyhood of inadvertant self timer selection). Will you 
>>> be
>>> doing something differently regarding transporting/using your camera 
>>> there
>>> now ?
>>> Cheers
>>> Geoff
>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2010/1/17 Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>>> 
>>>> Hi Geoff,
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, the administrative details were handled between Leica Solms and 
>>>> Leica
>>>> UK, and the other day my M8 arrived back in Alicante. The main switch 
>>>> is now
>>>> firm and clicks into place as it should--in fact, it is a bit too firm 
>>>> for
>>>> my taste but I am not going to complain about that. In other respects, 
>>>> the
>>>> camera is fine, as it was before.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Nathan
>>>> 
>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>> 
>>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 17, 2010, at 8:12 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> This sounds like good news for you, Nathan. So the corrosion damge was
>>>>> repaired at no cost under the UK Passport guarantee for you? Are you
>>>> happy
>>>>> with the condition and performance of your M8 on its return?
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Geoff
>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2010/1/17 Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now that I have my M8 back, it will be a while before I use film 
>>>>>> again.
>>>> But
>>>>>> in the meantime, I finished scanning and editing another 4 rolls this
>>>> past
>>>>>> week, and have put 28 new images in my film gallery on Smugmug. This 
>>>>>> one
>>>> and
>>>>>> the next 27:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu/Other/Sometimes-I-use-film/7590141_XFqsu#766329409_wWLQU-O-LB
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All made with Ilford FP4 Plus and developed by Copia Lab in Barcelona.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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