Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/12/24

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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Y
From: tedgrant at (tedgrant at
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:41:42 -0800
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What I might suggest before you post this type of art in single pieces.  Do 
a series along the same style/theme, as in the tea cup that I didn't comment 
on. Then post them as a kind of exhibition of the work in a collection. In 
that we may see a very interesting collection by someone who observes the 
world with a different set of eyes than we who predominantly photograph 
people in real life moments.

There isn't anything wrong with what you are shooting, it's just caught many 
by surprise due to it's style. But interesting!

The tea cup photo was interesting, but I felt it needed something  more or 
less? Either the back ground was too busy, and due to the out of focus 
aspect it became far more distracting. Or the cup needed a little tea in the 
bottom or some spilled on the table or some indication the human in the back 
ground had drank it all? Or? It just didn't cut it.

Both of your photographs have made me look hard to try & see something other 
than my rather trite description of the clock and frame.. "a school 
composition art assignment." But in reality it is having art school 
assignments just like this that teach us the balances of good composition. 
Don't stop doing what you are doing / trying if it's fun and interesting for 

We all may learn some compositional aspects from your efforts. And as I say, 
a series posted in a block of images may well have greater impact than one 
photo at a time.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ruediger Merz" <styx at>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at>
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 2:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Y

> Ted, your insight is greatly appreciated. So, I don't take it personally. 
> As long as the critiques are constructive. And yours are.
> When I photograph I do it from an emotional state. I look around and think 
> there could be something interesting. Than I observe it, look through the 
> finder and release the shutter. That's it. No message. I don't try to send 
> messages, for that I use email or other means.
> And I agree with you that the picture is pseudo art. A bad copy of 
> whatever image. Must have been in my subconscious. Funny is that you first 
> had to tell me. I did not see it for myself. I guess that is why I post 
> images to the LUG. That someone pushes my nose into it.
> Thanks Ted, I appreciate it.
> Happy Holidays,
> Rudy
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> On Dec 24, 2009, at 2:12 AM, tedgrant at wrote:
>> Rudy offered:
>> Subject: [Leica] IMG: Y
>> Hi Rudy,
>> Remember you asked for critique and comment! :-)
>> It appears as nothing more than a composition assignment for a high 
>> school art class. Sorry mate but that's life.
>> Quite frankly I'm sure you can accomplish far better. Thank you.
>> Please don't take it personally it's the piece of pseudo art I'm speaking 
>> of.
>> If I should be so impertinent may I ask, would you please explain to the 
>> crew what your motivation was to make this exposure? And what are you 
>> trying to illustrate? Looking for your response!
>> Thank you.
>> cheers,
>> ted
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