Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/11/07

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Subject: [Leica] Anybody with an actual M9 have experience with largefast cards?
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:39:55 +0100
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I wonder why your 18 mp DNGs from the M9 are 34.7 MB when my 10 mp  
DNGs from the M8 are around 10-11 MB, also on the card. Are you by any  
chance shooting DNG+JPG?

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Nathan

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On Nov 8, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:

> If you are shooting uncompressed (14 bit)  18mp DNGs the files are  
> 34.7MB
> each on the card. Interestingly, importing them with LR3 will  
> losslessly
> compress those (both the original and second copy) to ~18MB on your
> computer/external drive.
> I use all 4GB cards on the M8 as my choice and found the almost 400  
> frames
> per card practical with the M8 when travelling and shooting a lot. I  
> think
> that 16GB cards will become the new 4GB for me.
> Keep in mind that you will need to change the battery periodically  
> (expected
> 400~500 exposures dependant on your style), so in my opinion it is  
> better to
> align the card change with that operation if you have a heavy shooting
> schedule. For cost and risk reasons also, in my opinion 16GB is the  
> best
> choice.  For less demandig situations, around 90 frames on a 4GB  
> card is
> pretty useful anyway. I think that 32GB is the highest supported in  
> the SDHC
> standard. Someone will correct me if that's out of date. Write  
> speeds may
> see some improvements when firmware updates become available in the  
> future.
> 2009/11/8 Bryan Willman <bryanwi at bryanwi.com>
>
>> I have never had a card fail.   I have had computers crash and nearly
>> lose data after cards are off loaded.   I often have a hard time  
>> keeping
>> track of too many small things.
>>
>> So my theory is to have, say, 4 very large cards.  (at least 16gb,  
>> but
>> 64gb if the M9 works with them.)   Then, on a long trip (say 2  
>> weeks in
>> Europe), you shoot quite freely, but NEVER reuse/reformat a card.
>> After off loading, don't reformat the cards until your various backup
>> processes are confirmed to have worked.
>>
>> So one wants to carry enough cards to cover all of the shooting for  
>> any
>> trip without needing to delete anything from a card.   (Copy to  
>> disk if
>> possible just to have a backup)   Digital cameras -> lots of  
>> exposures
>> (because we can.)   Rather than carrying 16 by 16gb cards, would  
>> rather
>> carry 4 64gb cards.
>>
>> The reason I raise the question is that my M8 originally couldn't  
>> cope
>> with SDHC cards, and was effectively limited to 2GB.   Does the M9  
>> have
>> such a disease?  Will it work reliably with 64gb cards?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lug-bounces+bryanwi=bryanwi.com at leica-users.org
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+bryanwi <lug-bounces%2Bbryanwi>=bryanwi.com@
>> leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>> Frank Filippone
>> Sent: 2009-Nov-07 4:44 PM
>> To: 'Leica Users Group'
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Anybody with an actual M9 have experience with
>> largefast cards?
>>
>> There are 2 ways to go.. get the biggest card you can, or get a  
>> bunch of
>> smaller ones....
>>
>> Advantage to the big card:  It holds more.  At 18MB per snap, there  
>> are
>> roughly 3200 full RAW images you can store on a 64GB card.....But it
>> takes
>> longer to format, delete a bunch, etc.  and if it goes south, you  
>> lose
>> it
>> all.
>> Advantage to the smaller cards..... They hold less.  You will not  
>> be as
>> exposed should you lose a card or it goes south on you.....But then  
>> you
>> must
>> store a bunch of cards.  The cards being pretty tiny, this should  
>> not be
>> as
>> big a deal as it was with film.
>>
>> I am really interested.......Why go big card?  What other  
>> advantages do
>> you
>> see?
>>
>> Frank Filippone
>> red735i at earthlink.net
>>
>>
>> What I'm really asking is - what is the biggest, fastest, SD card  
>> that
>> is "safe" to buy for the M9?
>>
>> thx
>> bmw
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
> -- 
> Cheers
> Geoff
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