Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/11/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Nov 2, 2009, at 4:29 PM, H. Ball Arche wrote: > When did they start using Ritalin for ADHD? > > I don't seem to recall that Tommy being around after that. Nothing > was made of the matter, at least where us kids would hear of it, but > I think Tommy got yanked. no idea, but it has become, I think, too easy to diagnose any goofy kid with ADHD and start Ritalin... not sure when the beginning was, but the drug has been much more used in the last 10-15 years. Steve > > I taught in a private school once where we had a number of kids who > were ADHD but unmedicated. The kids wouldn't have been allowed to > continue in the public school system without medication, and their > parents were affluent enough to send them to the private school and > keep the kids off script. > > None of the staff was trained for this, and the school's supposed > emphasis was on top-quality academics. However, the market base in > that town was so small that to maintain enrollment we had to keep > these kids (usually all the sibs came too, as part of the package of > taking the ADHD ones). It made for a tough learning situation, and > it was definitely true that just a small number of kids caused an > adverse condition that affected whole grade-classes. > > I had one kid who, as soon as I wasn't looking, would start breaking > things - I mean pick up a hammer and pound pound pound. This was in > an art class. An incredibly smart and articulate guy, but so much > energy that reason couldn't get past his restless need for violent > motion. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 6:06:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Leica] the ultimate digest Leica criticism thread > > > On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:56 PM, H. Ball Arche wrote: > >> A vivid memory from 3rd grade: Tommy Mandel, bug-eyed and gagged, >> tied to his seat with jump ropes, and STILL he had that desk >> skittering around the room. We were all OK with it. He'd been put >> there by sweet, tiny, ancient Mrs. Coles, a paragon of kindness. >> >> It was 1964 and there wasn't a name for ADHD yet. > > > I wonder if gags and jump ropes worked better than Ritalin? > > > Steve >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Steve Unsworth <lug at steveunsworth.co.uk> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 5:01:03 PM >> Subject: Re: [Leica] the ultimate digest Leica criticism thread >> >> Just a quick question Ted, did you treat your own children in the >> same way >> when they were at home? Lock them in cupboards for hours maybe, or >> banged >> their heads against a table if they answered a question incorrectly? >> >> If not, do you think they would have been better people if you had? >> >> We had some sadistic teachers when I was at school too. I remember >> one >> occasion in a German lesson where the teacher lost his temper with >> a pupil, >> put his head in the desk and repeatedly banded the top of the desk >> on the >> back of his head, not as a punishment but purely and simply because >> he'd >> lost both his temper and his control. Others were throwing board >> dusters >> around. Another - a P.E. Teacher - used to watch the young boys >> when they >> were taking a shower. I could go on. >> >> I normally agree with you Ted, but I think you are wrong in promoting >> control by fear. If kids misbehave it's because of the parents IMHO. >> >> Steve >> >> >> On 2/11/09 22:02, "tedgrant at shaw.ca" <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote: >> >>> Jeeeeeeeeeeeeshhhhhhhh you know I'm one of those old guys who >>> believes one >>> good smack deserves another if you still don't behave! It's called >>> discipline! And respect! >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information