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Subject: [Leica] Grandma's advice
From: joelct at (Joseph Low)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:16:54 +0800
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I stand corrected, sir

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Subject: [Leica] Grandma's advice

While I generally agree with grandma, Joseph's use of "grog" as a 
synonym for alcoholic beverages is imprecise. All sailors know that 
grog is a drink concocted to make seamen in the old Royal Navy happy 
but not too drunk to climb the rigging. Guinness, on the other hand was 
intended to make working men happy and boost the strength of porters 
and laborers in Dublin and London. The various scotches referred to in 
the LUG were intended to make everyone happy. Here are the definitions 
for grag and Guinness from Wikipedia.

Grog originally referred to a drink made with water or "small beer" (a 
weak beer) and rum, which was introduced into the Royal Navy by British 
Vice Admiral Edward Vernon (nicknamed "Old Grog" by the sailors) on 21 
August 1740. Modern versions of the drink are often made with hot or 
boiling water, and sometimes include lemon juice, lime juice, cinnamon 
or sugar to improve the taste. Rum with water, sugar and nutmeg was 
known as bumboo and was more popular with pirates and merchantmen.

Guinness (pronounced /???n?s/) is a popular dry stout that originated 
in the brewery of Arthur Guinness (1725?1803) at St. James's Gate, 
Dublin. Guinness is based on the porter style that originated in London 
in the early 18th century and is one of the most successful beer brands 
worldwide. A distinctive feature is the burnt flavour which is derived 
 from the use of roasted barley. Despite its reputation as a "meal in a 
glass", Guinness only contains 198 kcal (838 kilojoules) per imperial 
pint (1460 kJ/l), fewer than skimmed milk or orange juice and most 
other non-light beers.
Larry Z

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