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Subject: [Leica] Better bokeh?
From: imagist3 at (George Lottermoser)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:34:17 -0500
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All a matter of opinion James.
In my opinion 'bokeh' exists where ever out-of-focus exists.
And it certainly exists in most macro photography in the natural world.
I also believe that different lenses render OOF in more or less  
"pleasing" ways;
especially where high contrast complexity exists in those OOF areas.

George Lottermoser
george at

On Sep 28, 2009, at 12:20 PM, James Laird wrote:

> Gene,
> I guess I'm a little confused about the term 'bokeh'. According the
> Wikipedia's definition of the term:
> "Although difficult to quantify, some lenses enhance overall image
> quality by producing more subjectively pleasing out-of-focus areas.
> Good bokeh is especially important for large-aperture lenses, macro
> lenses, and long telephoto lenses because they are typically used with
> a shallow depth of field."
> so I'm confused;)
> Jim
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:43 AM,  <grduprey at> wrote:
>> James,
>> Bokeh and Macro just don't mix, Period.  At macro ranges, bokeh  
>> just does not exist.  We are talking 1 inch MAXIMUM dof.  For  
>> normal and macro shooting, I use the 60/2.8R Macro Elmarit lens  
>> and it works just fine.
>> Cheers,
>> Gene  -------------- Original message from James Laird  
>> <digiratidoc at>: --------------
>>> Which R lens in the 'standard' range (50-60mm) has the best bokeh?
>>> I've found an interest in the macro world and shoot a lot with my  
>>> old
>>> trusty Canon 50 1.8 with a Kenko 12mm extension tube resulting in
>>> shots like
>>> I'm interested in trying out an R lens due to Leicas legendary  
>>> bokeh.
>>> Which one is the 'best', if there is such a thing?
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