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Subject: [Leica] Introduction of Leica M9 on 09.09.09
From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr (Philippe Amard)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 07:48:48 +0200
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Thanks Nathan
all this accounts for the fact that price tags in USD in the US before 
tax,  more or less show the same figures as EU euro street prices, 
figures, more or less - then you need a degree in economics to compute 
if you win or lose by buying overseas :-D
Amiti?s
Philippe


Nathan Wajsman wrote:

> To expand a bit on Philippe's explanation: pros do not pay VAT IF 
> they  are registered and have a VAT number and collect VAT from their  
> customers. This is what makes it a value-added tax: it is levied at  
> each stage of the production process but only on the value added  
> during that stage of the process. From the final consumer's point of  
> view, it is no different than a US-style sales tax. Percentages vary  
> from 15% in the UK to 25% in Denmark. Most countries levy zero or 
> very  low VAT on basic goods like food (sadly, no country considers 
> Leica  equipment to be a basic necessity...). Prices shown in European 
> shops  and on web sites here almost always INCLUDE the VAT (as opposed 
> to the  US where standard practice is to display prices without the 
> sales tax).
>
> If the product being bought is exported or shipped outside the EU,  
> then the VAT that is typically included in the price is not charged.  
> Example: you buy something from a UK online retailer costing 1000  
> pounds (incl. VAT) and have it sent to the US--then you will actually  
> pay 1000/1.15=869.57 pounds.
>
> And Philippe, under certain circumstances, too complicated to get 
> into  here, VAT can be payable on second-hand goods as well (if bought 
> from  a dealer).
>
> Nathan
>
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>
> On Sep 1, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Philippe Amard wrote:
>
>>
>> Gary Dalton wrote:
>>
>>> Value Added Tax???
>>>
>>>
>> exact - pros get a refund for it as it is only the last payer that  
>> pays it, i.e. the client ...
>> VAT doesn't apply to SH goods
>> phx
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:02:41 -0400
>>>> From: mark at rabinergroup.com
>>>> To: lug at leica-users.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Introduction of Leica M9 on 09.09.09
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Also remember that the Euro price reflects high V.A.T. (which  
>>>>> sometimes goes
>>>>> up to 20% or more).
>>>>>
>>>> Jim what the hell is a VAT?
>>>>
>>>> Inquiring Rabiners want to know.
>>>>
>>>> Now would be a good time.
>>>> Better than waiting till the 9th minute of the ninth day of the  
>>>> rest of my
>>>> life.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>> Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you.
>>> http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1
>>>  
>>>
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