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Subject: [Leica] Death of PJ, revisited
From: imagist3 at mac.com (George Lottermoser)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:51:31 -0500
References: <200908242232.BUD05070@rg4.comporium.net> <276FFCA3-7641-4499-B9FB-4336448F3AA8@mac.com> <200908250130.BUD22070@rg4.comporium.net> <0CA9498F-AAA5-4229-A6DA-121F9BA5B0F8@mac.com>

And I predict that new model will be
"multimedia" along the lines of Chris's piece.

We're not dealing with turn of the century newspapers
or mid twentieth century picture magazines
anymore.

We're dealing with
the internet
youtube
twitter
video in our still cameras
video on the net
video on cable
music
live interviews
"reality" - some trash, some brilliant
there's a lot of material out there.
Some producers are finding
income streams with their work.

Some are struggling
including large, savvy media folks
trying to figure out
how to make it pay.

Brainstorming this topic
would be very helpful
to many on this list

certainly would be for me.

ideas?

Regards,
George Lottermoser
george at imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com
http://www.imagist.com/blog
http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist

On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:39 PM, George Lottermoser wrote:

> I believe it's both the problem and the solution.
> When I saw Chris's piece
> I immediately thought - Brad Pitt needs to see this.
> It's both a freely available piece
> and something that may be seen by thousands (or even millions)
>
> Will it promote NOLA?
> Yes.
> Will NOLA's success
> translate into Chris's success?
> Yes.
>
> When does Chris get paid for his labor of love?
> I don't know.
>
> But no artist ever knows
> who will purchase his work.
>
> It's the difference between
> commissioned work
> and work done because one has to.
>
> Many of the most memorable projects
> were created because the artist simply had to create it.
>
> We need to find new ways and means of support
> for our work
> as the old model fades away.
>
> No easy task.
> Yet the task at hand
> at this moment in history.
>
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george at imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>
> On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:30 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
>
>> At 06:56 PM 8/24/2009, you wrote:
>>> We are them.
>>> What stories are "we" telling?
>>> (see Chris's NOLA Rebirth)
>>> Where are "we" telling them?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> George Lottermoser
>>
>> I love Chris's NOLA Rebirth.  We can tell our stories all over the  
>> internet but if nobody is paying us to do it, how do we continue?   
>> I've never understood the Creative Commons movement that believes  
>> that everything on the internet should be free with no copyright  
>> restrictions.  How are creative people supposed to continue to  
>> create?  What is the incentive?  Lots of hits and praise are  
>> wonderful but they certainly don't pay the mortgage or put food on  
>> the table.  There's got to be a better model.
>>
>> Tina
>>
>>
>> Tina Manley
>> www.tinamanley.com
>>
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