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Subject: [Leica] M8 + Coded Lens = Nada in LR?
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey at mchsi.com)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:58:08 +0000
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Ted,

It's just techie stuff, and does not effect the photo at all.  I never even 
look at it myself.

Cheers,
Gene
-------------- Original message from "Ted Grant" <tedgrant at shaw.ca>: 
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> Hi John and others, 
> 
> 
> 
> A question regarding EXIF information. Once again pointing out I don't 
> read 
> the manual, therefore not one clue of what it does to assist in making a 
> better photo moment at the time of "click!" 
> 
> 
> 
> Obviously it can't be of any big deal given I've been shooting with 
> several 
> types of digital cameras during the past half dozen years and in 
> particular 
> the M8 since it's arrival. Without a clue nor concern about this EXIF 
> stuff? 
> 
> 
> 
> The lenses I use aren't coded, Leica Noctilux, 35 Summilux, 90 Summicron. 
> And VC 15mm, 21, 35. not sure what coding & EXIF does either? Or am I 
> missing something that without question by not having these items, am I 
> not 
> taking the best pictures possible? It seems like one of those photo things 
> if you don't know about it, it isn't going to hurt your end product? 
> Although many others certainly seem to have concerns as the subject comes 
> up 
> quite often. Please explain why I should be concerned? Thank you 
> 
> 
> 
> My M8 has "no detection" set for the lenses because I know I don't have 
> any 
> coded lenses. Maybe I did something right? 
> 
> 
> 
> But this EXIF thing is quite puzzling because what do you use it for in 
> shooting better pictures? And making better prints. Or is it just another 
> of 
> those techie things people talk about that has absolutely no relevance to 
> taking/making good photographs? 
> 
> 
> 
> You should understand that it took Tina months to convince me to shoot in 
> RAW, even face to face conversations. Finally she got the message through 
> when I began using LightRoom. I now use it and it's a piece of cake to 
> work 
> with therefore all digi cams are set for RAW. 
> 
> 
> 
> EXIF???????? Is it absolutely a necessity for better pictures? Will my 
> photo 
> content and final prints improve ? Or is just some built in filing 
> system???? 
> 
> 
> 
> This in advance to those who may answer, please keep it KISS! For obvious 
> reasons you are dealing with a technical klutz. Thank you. I'm a 
> photographer first, techie klutz second. :-) I suppose if it doesn't make 
> the end product look extremely improved, "What's all the big fuss about?" 
> And certainly the bigger question... "why spend a ton of money having 
> lenses 
> coded if all it does is fiddle something in the viewfinder that you can 
> correct by taking one step closer or one step back? See that's what I mean 
> about KISS. And it's free! :-) 
> 
> 
> 
> Dr. ted 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org 
> [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of J. 
> Newell 
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:34 AM 
> To: Leica Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Leica] M8 + Coded Lens = Nada in LR? 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> Yes, lens detection turned on, shooting only raw. 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> Interestingly, it looks like the EXIF shows the 50mm lens as 67mm 
> (correct), 
> while C1 shows it as 50mm (actual FL rather than EFL), and LR shows, as 
> noted, nothing. Wierd? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: "Sonny Carter" 
> 
> To: "Leica Users Group" 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 10:02:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> 
> Subject: Re: [Leica] M8 + Coded Lens = Nada in LR? 
> 
> 
> 
> Is your menu set for lens detection? 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:55 PM, J. Newell wrote: 
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> > 
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> > 
> 
> > OK, I'm probably missing something? Could use a hint... 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Got lens flanges back from John Milich today (grrrrreat service!), 
> > filled 
> 
> > with paint. Mount lens, take pic, load in LR - no metadata other than 
> date 
> 
> > and camera. Export as jpg (w/o metadata minimized) - focal length, etc. 
> 
> > shows up. What should I expect to be able to see for metadata in LR? By 
> 
> > the way, had the same result in Capture One (essentially no metadata 
> 
> > visible). Puzzled...? 
> 
> > 
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> > 
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> > 
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> > Thanks for any pointers 
> 
> > 
> 
> > John Newell 
> 
> > 
> 
> > _______________________________________________ 
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> -- 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> 
> 
> Sonny 
> 
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In reply to: Message from john.o.newell at comcast.net (J. Newell) ([Leica] M8 + Coded Lens = Nada in LR?)
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