Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/07/02

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Subject: [Leica] Why Leicas with Nazi symbols should be trashed,
From: douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp)
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:37:24 +0200
References: <C671CC9F.50AAB%mark@rabinergroup.com> <210032.9430.qm@web55903.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Oooops!!!
Douglas

H. Ball Arche wrote:
> Back in the late '80s when artists first started mounting curatorial 
> projects as their 'work', a woman whose name I've forgotten but remember 
> as being of the witchy-newager sort (and jewish, as it happens) put 
> together a very thoroughly researched and illustrated show at the Cultural 
> Center (the old downtown library) that was aimed at reclaiming and 
> rehabilitating the swastika. I seem to recall she tracked its origins and 
> appearance on every populated continent except Australia. 
>
> How are you making out? I haven't been spending a lot of time here lately, 
> but when I do drop in to a thread your posts are the ones I usually read 
> (as opposed to Goerge Lottermoser and Hoppy, who I tend to avoid like the 
> plague).
>
> Me, I'm unemployed at the moment and waiting to see what'll turn up. More 
> than likely I'll have to relocate, so I'm busily sorting through all my 
> crap and getting rid of the stuff I don't really need or use. If things 
> take the turn where I have to go out and be a pro-shooter, I'll probably 
> drop you a line for practical gear advice on Nikon kits in various price 
> ranges. But that's down the line yet.
>
> H.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 1:31:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Why Leicas with Nazi symbols should be trashed,
>
> They really are basic ornaments out of basic ornimenture.
> You'd expect to see them on the edges of door mats.
> But as a result of 1933 - 1945 they have a stigma which is going to hang in
> there for many thousands of years. And I do think people on the eastern
> hemisphere are aware of all that strong stigma.
>
>
> Mark William Rabiner
>
>
>
>   
>> From: "H. Ball Arche" <h_arche at yahoo.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:30:37 -0700 (PDT)
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Why Leicas with Nazi symbols should be trashed,
>>
>>
>> I had been given to believe that the swastika is one of those few 
>> ideographs,
>> like the rayed sun/circle, that has dated to neolithic times and can be 
>> found
>> in the record of virtually all cultures and continents. It certainly was 
>> used
>> by the Native Americans, and I think that it even had significance in the
>> Hebrew Kabalah. 
>>     
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