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Subject: [Leica] Troubleshooting-Examples
From: douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 18:32:18 +0200
References: <BLU146-W3F311EDE8ADBB36B24CE2C6550@phx.gbl><2E5AC1CF09AD4A37ABB49D28D88233E1@jimnichols><BLU146-W30951A2200136A21A453F9C6550@phx.gbl><4A1A2FE1.5000401@tele2.fr> <BLU146-W35485C7D6C244D938E9173C6550@phx.gbl> <49B4006370F5422A8C36BA6E41850BFA@jimnichols>

My IIIG did the same before I had it CLA'ed,
if you take the lens off and watch the shutter, one of the curtains 
stops instead of disappearing into the shutter crate before  reappearing 
to close the two curtains.
Cheers
Douglas

Jim Nichols wrote:
> Beautiful cat, Gary.  I pulled out a couple of prints from 1953, and 
> the dark strip appears on the left side of the print in mine. Yours 
> appear to be on the right. I can't offer any more suggestions, except 
> to question whether the shutter curtains are sticking together when 
> they should be opening?
>
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Dalton" <grdalton at hotmail.com>
> To: "LUG" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 1:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Troubleshooting-Examples
>
>
>>
>> Thanks for your question, Philippe... The negs are transparent where 
>> the blackened areas appear in the prints...
>>
>> A link to two troubled prints is below...
>>
>> The edge of the blacked out area would appear to be the edge of the 
>> shutter, right?
>>
>> Could  the discrepancy in size of the blackened areas be a function 
>> of the speed selected for each shot?
>>
>> Doug suggested that the shutter is "capping" ... and a CLA as the 
>> cure....
>>
>>
>> http://filmuser3.smugmug.com/gallery/8321924_uSXgv/1/545203831_D8p2k
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 07:42:57 +0200
>>> From: philippe.amard at tele2.fr
>>> To: lug at leica-users.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Troubleshooting
>>>
>>> Gary, you refer to prints, have you examined the negs?
>>> can you post a scan as is
>>> ph
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary Dalton wrote:
>>>
>>> >Thanks, Jim. I'm thinking CLA...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>From: jhnichols at lighttube.net
>>> >>To: lug at leica-users.org
>>> >>Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 21:25:10 -0500
>>> >>Subject: Re: [Leica] Troubleshooting
>>> >>
>>> >>Gary,
>>> >>
>>> >>I have a Leica IIIa that sometimes shows those characteristics at 
>>> 1/500 >>and
>>> >>1/1000, but it has been that way for 55 years, so I just avoid the 
>>> >>higher
>>> >>speeds. If yours is down in the lower speeds, I suspect it needs 
>>> >>shutter
>>> >>attention.
>>> >>
>>> >>Jim Nichols
>>> >>Tullahoma, TN USA
>>> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Gary Dalton" 
>>> <grdalton at hotmail.com>
>>> >>To: "LUG" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> >>Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 8:10 PM
>>> >>Subject: [Leica] Troubleshooting
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>A black band is showing up on some of my prints. This band 
>>> encroaches >>>from
>>> >>>the right edge of a print (if you think of it as a landscape 
>>> >>>perspective)
>>> >>>in varying widths -- 1/10 of the way into the print all the way 
>>> up to >>>2/3.
>>> >>>But, sometimes it's not there at all. If I am shooting from portrait
>>> >>>perspective, the black encroachment occurs at the top of the image.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Regardless of how far it might extend into the image, the 
>>> remaining >>>part
>>> >>>of the exposed image can be just fine, even perfect.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>The line where the black band meets the "good" image is not 
>>> usually a
>>> >>>clean cut line; I want to say it's fuzzy, soft, less opaque than 
>>> the >>>rest
>>> >>>of the black band. When it intrudes 2/3 the way across a print, 
>>> it >>>tends
>>> >>>to be more clean cut, with a more definite edge. It isn't soft or 
>>> >>>fuzzy.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>I am wondering if I have a shutter curtain issue... The bands 
>>> appear >>>way
>>> >>>to organized to simply be a leak. At least, that's my novice notion.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Because it IS difficult to rewind a roll of film, I thought it 
>>> might >>>be a
>>> >>>film advance issue. But, none of the images seem to be 
>>> overlapping >>>each
>>> >>>other. If it weren't for the black bands encroaching from the 
>>> edge, >>>what I
>>> >>>composed would still be there.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Your thoughts?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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In reply to: Message from grdalton at hotmail.com (Gary Dalton) ([Leica] Troubleshooting)
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