[Leica] Mentally ill and homeless

[jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)]

But the people have only increased in the other "warehouse", prisons. The
USA has about 5% of the world's population, but about 25% of people in
prison.
Cheers
Jayanand

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Gary Dalton <grdalton at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> This ball may have started rolling in earnest during Reagan's terms as
> governor of California, 1966-74.
>
> Interestingly, conservative notions about cutting government spending
> combined with emerging liberal notions about human rights, providing
> momentum to reducing the number of people in "society's warehouses."
>
>
>
>
> > From: kididdoc at cox.net
> > To: lug at leica-users.org
> > Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:36:49 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Mentally ill and homeless
> >
> >
> > On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:29 AM, Lawrence Zeitlin wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Apr 8, 2009, at 3:52 AM, Gene wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm not sure why you consider the US opinion of the homeless as
> > >> being ignorant. ?It is certainly the last thing I think of and the
> > >> same goes for most people I know. ? I also do not see it as a
> > >> mental health issue, but more of a economic issue.
> > >
> > > I'd like to support Chris on this matter, as least as regards many
> > > of New York's homeless. Fifty years ago most of New York's obviously
> > > mentally ill were institutionalized for treatment at considerable
> > > expense to the state. With the concurrent advent of psychologically
> > > theraputic drugs  (tranqulizers, anti depressants, anti psychotics)
> > > and New York City's financial crisis (You remember the headlines.
> > > "President Ford to NY 'Drop Dead' ") the city closed most of the
> > > institutions, opting to treat the ambulatory mentally ill on an
> > > outpatient basis. It was assumed that visits to neighborhood clinics
> > > plus drug therapy would suffice. But the the patients were mentally
> > > ill. They often forgot to visit the clinics and take their
> > > medications. Within a year or two most were on the streets, unable
> > > to find work, living on doorsteps, sleeping over warm air subway
> > > grates. Admittedly there are many people homeless because of
> > > economic conditions but a substantial number of the homeless in New
> > > York are there because of decisions made in the mental health system
> > > a generation ago.
> >
> > absolutely true, the term that was used optimistically back then for
> > de-institutionalizing all of these unfortnate people ...
> >
> >
> > was mainstreaming,
> >
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Safety nets and homeless shelters have been put in place but still
> > > many people chose to live out their life on the streets.
> >
> > > Larry Z
> > >
> > >
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