Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/03/31

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Subject: [Leica] Hartblei tilt shift rotation lenses get Zeiss name
From: henningw at archiphoto.com (Henning Wulff)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:47:38 -0700
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No. As far as I know they are just now available. I tried a Hartblei 
80/2.8 some years ago; it was workable but not the easiest thing to 
handle. Optical performance was decent but not outstanding. The 
Hartblei lenses went through quite a few changes mechanically, I 
believe so later ones might have worked a lot better and the 
mechanics on some of the later ones look the same as on the Zeiss 
Hartblei.

My interest is mainly in the shorter lenses (architecture and 
architectural models), and I've tried or own(ed) about a dozen of 
those. I can hardly wait to try the new 24 and 17mm lenses for Canon.

I don't shoot enough large format anymore to justify a digital back, 
so only film gets used in those; all the adjustments any lens can 
handle on the sinar-p but dof is still often a struggle on models. 
35mm is a lot more useful on those.



At 12:39 AM +0200 4/1/09, leica wrote:
>Have you tried using a Zeiss Hartblei?
>
>Bruce.
>
>On 31-mrt-2009, at 20:19, Henning Wulff wrote:
>
>>  In practice these things have severe limitations due to the 
>>constricted lens mount on the slr and the depth of the mirror 
>>housing. Lens tilts are OK, but shifts are very limited and 
>>film/sensor tilts, which are much more useful than lens tilts for 
>>the most part, are also very limited.
>>
>>
>>  At 8:04 PM +0200 3/31/09, leica wrote:
>>>  Since these are shift and tilt lenses, the image circle has to be 
>>>large enough to encompass the movements.
>>>
>>>  The options are lenses from Canon and Nikon (others I know not) 
>>>or the use of a view camera (5x4) to achieve the movements.
>>>  It's a question of how much movement and which perspective you 
>>>wish to employ.
>>>
>>>  I have a 5x4 back-plate with a bayonet adapter for Nikon. Also 
>>>available, I understand, for Canon.
>>>  So a dslr can be hung onto the back of the plate. Haven't tried 
>>>it yet! Anyone else?
>>>
>>>  Byee,
>>>  Bruce.

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