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Subject: [Leica] Insights about handling a delicate photo situation
From: scoutfinch at chartermi.net (Susan Ryan)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:20:54 -0400
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Howard,

Thanks so much for your input. I was hoping you and Steve would weigh  
in on this.  Your idea sounds pretty workable for most situations.

BTW - I am Cheri's sister! To fellow LUGers, as coincidence would have  
it, my sister is one of Howard's nurses at his oncology centers. I'd  
seen his name on the LUG but assumed it was probably a different person.




Steve,

Dang, I hadn't thought about HIPPA. If the person, not the facility,  
requested and used the photos, would HIPPA even be a consideration?  
Maybe if donating photography is not officially part of my work as a  
volunteer and I am merely someone my hospice group could refer people  
to would get around any potential HIPPA issue.



Sue



On Mar 15, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Howard Ritter wrote:

> Susan--
>
> As a hospice medical director as well as a medical oncologist, my  
> sense is that many, probably most, patients at the end of life, and  
> their families, would respond very favorably to an offer on your  
> part to document parts of this phase of their and their families'  
> lives. Later, while sharing the resulting images with them, express  
> satisfaction with the result and ask if they'd be willing to let you  
> post some of the best images to a group of serious (and private)  
> fellow photography enthusiasts. I suspect that if you approach them  
> this way, you'd get consent more often than not. My inclination is  
> to agree with Nathan that formal, written permission would be  
> unnecessary, and asking for it might put the wrong tone on the  
> situation.
>
> I think it's a great idea. I can't tell you how many times I've been  
> on the verge of broaching this idea to one or another of my own  
> patients. Maybe now!
>
> Ask Steve Barbour how he explains his aims to his patients and their  
> parents.
>
> --howard
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Susan Ryan wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I'm hoping the group can give me some thought about how to handle a  
>> potentially touchy situation. I am a hospice volunteer. From  
>> experiences in my own life, I think there might be interest by  
>> hospice clients and family members for donated photo services. I'm  
>> thinking things such as grandparents finishing projects to be given  
>> to grandchildren, spending time with family members, portraits, or  
>> whatever the person involved would like to document. I'm thinking I  
>> would give the client a copy of the files on a disc and they could  
>> do with them what they liked. While I wouldn't use these photos for  
>> any personal gain, I can envision wanting to post to the LUG, etc.,  
>> if I had one I liked, needed help with, etc. I am quite concerned  
>> about privacy liability. I'm also afraid if I insist on model  
>> releases before taking a single photo people will assume I have  
>> personal motives for taking the photos to begin with. I was  
>> thinking maybe it would be safe enough to ask permission to post or  
>> show their photos and if they agree I would have them sign a model  
>> release. If they do not like the idea I would keep a record of that  
>> and keep those files in a "do not post" folder. Do you have any  
>> advice about how you would handle this? Should I abandon the idea  
>> because the can of worms is just too big to open?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Sue
>>
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