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Subject: [Leica] Sad news for Flexers
From: philippe.amard at tele2.fr (Philippe AMARD)
Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:13:41 +0100
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Geoff Hopkinson wrote:

>Philippe, the link does not work any more. I think that maybe your joke
>wasn't acceptable for the gallery.
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Works ;-)
http://gallery.lfi-online.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=36

>I don't follow what you mean about the guarantee period being over for the
>last R equipment being sold?
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When the guarantee period is over you no longer have to swap a faulty 
body for a fresh one - when that period is over, you can dump the 
leftovers and raise cash ( very little on today's film market BTW)

>There is no suggestion that Leica is not supporting current R equipment with
>service and parts.
>I would guess that sales of NEW R9s and current lenses have been small or
>non-existent for a while.
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Who would buy new when used won't go

>Remember that this was a dealer bulletin, however it has become a defacto
>announcement to the public as well by the way the net propagates these
>things..
>All I read into Leica's announcement is that they have cleared their
>inventory and they are still working on the R10 and its new lens system.
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Sure enough Geoff, first generation diesel ; won't start when cold, and 
overboil when hot :-[


>I think that this announcement is consistent with everything that Dr
>Kaufmann and Maike Harbets have said publicly about the R10
>It will be AF,
>there will be (some?) compatibility with the existing R lenses
>They know that customers want 24x36 and 'will try to fulfil this wish'
>S2 technology will form part of the R10 (esp. the maestro processor and the
>AF system).
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The S2 is not even out - my great grand children will look like my grand 
children story ...

>Just what form it will take is more speculative. My impression is that they
>do not think that a 'me too' dSLR will be unique enough to compete directly
>in a market full of excellent and cheaper Japanese dSLRs.
>Just how they will make their entry attractive will be VERY interesting to
>see
>
>Of course as you and others have indicated, customers are frustrated with
>waiting and Leica are losing sales right now as some of those R folks who
>have been patient for a long time are going to other brands and systems.
>I just don't think that Leica has the money and capacity to develop and
>introduce the new R system immediately when the S2 is yet to achieve serial
>production.
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S2 is THE mistake, apart from that stupid bunderswerh M8 , and , and 
giving up the DMR thing

Sorry if all this may sound very short and abrupt -  I've been working 
like crazy on top of problems with my 82 y.o. father and trying to keep 
my kids afloat...
No harm intended, at all
Amiti?s, sinc?res.
Philippe

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>2009/3/6 Philippe AMARD <philippe.amard at tele2.fr>
>
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>>I got the original message too.
>>Well, they must have needed that cash badly.
>>We may also conclude the guarantee period on the last R(s?) they sold is
>>now out... which tells a lot about film camera sales over the past
>>months/years.
>>Cleaning the drawers before new management comes in also makes sense, in a
>>way.
>>
>>The good news, for some, is that Leica is now a company totally committed
>>to digital.
>>The sad news is that it further excludes R users of their target
>>population.
>>I feel I'm more the latter, and will have to keep learning to do without
>>Leica.
>>Pity the whole experiment is sort of a 'way of the cross' ; I really had
>>had fun with the R9.2 Diesel:
>>
>>http://gallery.lfi-online.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=36<
>>http://gallery.lfi-online.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=36
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>>Bien amicalement.
>>Phili^^e
>>
>>--
>>Cheers
>>Geoff
>>'Pick up your Leica and make the best photo you can'
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Replies: Reply from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Sad news for Flexers)
In reply to: Message from philippe.amard at tele2.fr (Philippe AMARD) ([Leica] Sad news for Flexers)
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